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11-06-2021, 11:31 AM
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Do you find it difficult or easy to say or be I AM?
Yes I am still struggling with I AM. I have got the principles down and I am now practicing affirmations of I AM. But it does not come easy. There is a lot of resistance. Do you find saying or being I AM easy? Or do you find it difficult?
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11-06-2021, 12:22 PM
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I don't do any mantras myself ---they're finite ---can't get to the Infinite
using finite things.
Hows about just relaxing into looking out of your eyes and being aware
of Awareness ---as in, ''Who is this looking out of my eyes!!!!!!?"
Who's back there - what's behind there? Lol!
That's sure to give you a headache ---so don't try too hard if it does. 
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Prepare yourself for the coming astral journey of death by daily riding in the balloon of God-perception.
Through delusion you are perceiving yourself as a bundle of flesh and bones, which at best is a nest of troubles.
Meditate unceasingly, that you may quickly behold yourself as the Infinite Essence, free from every form of misery. ~Paramahansa's Guru's Guru.
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11-06-2021, 02:11 PM
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Can be a great tool at a certain stage of someones development.
If there is resistance, let it be. Don;t force it.
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Rah nam
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11-06-2021, 05:55 PM
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A question I haven't found a suitable answer to either. Thank you for asking it. Does I AM know itself. Is it aware of itself. Does it know about, that it is the body (illusion) and itself (spirit), knowing both illusion and realty. The spirit also experiences but at a different level of meaning. The body knows only itself, nothing more. Body isn't at the level of spirit and from what I have seen, body would make a very bad spirit, is I am I AM, or even soul. Is (I) spirit perspective aware it is both spirit and body both, where body's perspective does not know it is (also) spirit? Does spirit experience and know it is dimensional. I do find the question difficult because we are not suppose to know this. Maybe someone has an answer. A good question. Knowledge is not complete without experience. Obviously, I AM talking about separation that really doesn't exist at some level.
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11-06-2021, 08:03 PM
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We can consider consciousness as the intermediary between Spirit (or Being) and the body.
Spirit is formlessness and the body is form.
When consciousness identifies with the body it struggles to say I AM.
When consciousness identifies with Spirit then there is effortless knowing that I AM.
The entire spiritual journey is the transition from identification with form to identification with formlessness.
Peace
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11-06-2021, 09:49 PM
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Rah nam
Can be a great tool at a certain stage of someones development.
If there is resistance, let it be. Don;t force it.
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I agree completely that I AM "can be a great tool at a certain stage of someone's development". 
" I AM" .... with no other thoughts ... was reportedly Ramana Maharshi's definition of "Be Still" as in the Jewish Psalm "Be Still and know that I AM God" (Psalm 46:10).
Once one completes the sentence " I AM" with anything (such as "I am Still_Waters"), one creates mental separation at the very least.
Of course, Ramana added that "that which IS does not even say I AM". There is thus a point at which the I AM subsides quite naturally.
As Rah Nam duly noted, I AM "can be a great tool at a certain stage of someone's development". It can also be used even later during periods of distraction/entanglement as a "quickie" gateway back to the Absolute that lies beyond I AM. As a side note, Nisargadatta Maharaj indicated that concentrating on " I AM" was the instruction given to him by his guru shortly before his guru left the earth plane.
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11-06-2021, 10:01 PM
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It's very easy, and you can do it too!
I AM.
There, that's done... OMG. That wasn't too difficult.
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11-06-2021, 10:02 PM
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QUOTE 2 EXCERPT:
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Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn
Hows about just relaxing into looking out of your eyes and being aware
of Awareness ---as in, ''Who is this looking out of my eyes!!!!!!?"
Who's back there - what's behind there? Lol!
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Ramana Maharshi also recommended the above approach that you just mentioned.
He constantly recommended the "Who am I" self-inquiry.
If a questioner asked a question, he would frequently ask "Who is asking this question".
He would do this in various ways with the essential underlying question being "Who's back there -- what's behind there", as you duly noted.
I view the "I AM" as a variation of this alternate approach as meditating on "I AM" does eventually raise the question, "Who am I" or "Who's back there".  |
11-06-2021, 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Still_Waters
Ramana Maharshi also recommended the above approach that you just mentioned.
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Well, ya know...great minds...  
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Prepare yourself for the coming astral journey of death by daily riding in the balloon of God-perception.
Through delusion you are perceiving yourself as a bundle of flesh and bones, which at best is a nest of troubles.
Meditate unceasingly, that you may quickly behold yourself as the Infinite Essence, free from every form of misery. ~Paramahansa's Guru's Guru.
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