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Old 16-07-2021, 12:47 PM
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Here a musical ‘bridge’ between East & West.

Steppe herder cultures Mongols still are and Indo-Europeans were.
Like echoes from the past:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vztR...tSptmO&index=6

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Cool bridge.
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Here is another bridge (North & South??)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdzeJHPINUk
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Old 16-07-2021, 12:57 PM
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Dimash from Kazakhstan (=wolf totemic):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XjlDCSJSV8

From 3:42 the song is directed at the Universal Echo ....
Yep, it stands out on it's own.
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Old 16-07-2021, 01:15 PM
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Yep, I was looking at some of that guys vids.
At a certain point my eyes glaze over since all this is like Greek to me and I feel bombarded at times.
But, here is another from him that I was half way through, which the topic is Stonehenge.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNLgbgHYohg&t=473s
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Old 16-07-2021, 01:20 PM
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there is a deep Hatred there from the celts.
Even today it goes on.
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Hatred even amongst the Catholic and Protestant in Ireland.
That hatred is like a virus.
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You are correct it is like a virus the Catholics and protects in Ireland cant get along
it is not as bad as it used to be but there is still tension there


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at least Greywolf was dealing with the correct Continent and traditions.
Which leads me to have respect for that more than the pow WOW hobbyists appropriators.

And my point is – he was/is not, plus he is also Amerind imitator.

I love to listen to Clannad, but all those megalithic monuments – like Stonehenge, were built long before Celts and Druids entered the scene. It is just history, what is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fI5XrjbSDpw

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At a certain point my eyes glaze over since all this is like Greek to me and I feel bombarded at times.
But, here is another from him that I was half way through, which the topic is Stonehenge.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNLgbgHYohg&t=473s
- Where he explains, who the Stonehenge builders were & they were not Celts.
Plus teaching the Lakota sweat lodge ceremony & vision quest model (where he got his wolf from) is not Celtic/Druid either.

IF he got the “wolf” from his Celtic ancestors (the Indo-Europeans, the late-comers to Europe), it probably was about the “dog of the underworld” as these dogs stand as guardians in the doorway of the dead.
“Wolf totem” however is like genealogy, but they also “live” in the “Lower World”.

Indo-European ancestry & culture is rich enough – it does not need to steal its identity from the megalith builders nor do the Druids need to borrow from Native Americans. Besides - what is wrong having ‘indigenous’ origins from the burial mound builders & culture of the Pontic-Caspian steppe?

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I understand your points, Greywolf is a joker and he is misguided.
I still respect the fact he was pointing back to the Horse culture.
Otherwise I don't really know anything about him,nor was I trying to endorse him.
He should probably do better research.
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Greywolf is a joker and he is misguided.
He should probably do better research.
Heh, that’s what I thought … some research at least

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Ancient History of Ireland Newgrange, Celts, Vikings:
… many of them (megalithic tombs), despite having been damaged during the passage of time, were re-used for Bell-Beaker burials …. This practice, which was quite frequent in the megalithic tombs of Iberia, has been interpreted as an attempt of the incipient Beaker elites to legitimate their position. In order to do so, they would have created a “fictitious genealogy” to link themselves to the sacred lineage of the ancestors …
The myths created way back then, still linger on in the minds of people.


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I still respect the fact he was pointing back to the Horse culture.
Well
I don’t think neither of us appreciated the extent of just how rich this horse culture was
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-ZWBtDXm2g

Now I’m glad we pitifully poor hunter-gatherers, (who had no horses) stayed mostly clueless about all of this in our back of the beyond forests, though there was a time when a horse was sacrificed (perhaps closer to the steppe zone) to take the departed into the other world or as a sacrifice to the Sky God.
And reindeers had been sacrificed ...

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Cool bridge.
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Here is another bridge (North & South??)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdzeJHPINUk
Yeah. I thought the steppe fusion worked very well, better than with the Saami joik.
You are good at spotting their singing style now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gw987nx-Tq4
I don’t think the East Baltic sacrifices were anywhere as elaborate as the Swedish ones

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Old 17-07-2021, 08:24 PM
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I may belong to the Stephen haplogroup....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Q_YNJMaJgE
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