CONTRADICTIONS IN THE BIBLE

Originally Posted by Animus27

I'd caution against seeing one point of view being more "evolved" than the other. Cultural values are subjective, and it can cause misunderstanding if one uses their own cultural, and personal perspectives as an objective yardstick.

I'd see the whole God of fear and God of love dichotomy to be based in the respective societies that produced the Hebrew and Christian Bible, respectively. The ancient Israelites were a semi-nomadic people who lived in a harsh environment and were subject to all kinds of oppression and dangers. God as an avenger and dispenser of justice would've meant more social cohesion and a sense of having a powerful ally in their corner.

While Christians, who tended to be heretical Jews and converted gentiles, who were usually lower class in an urban environment, where social inequity was commonplace, and the traditional religion(s) were seen as being entwined with the social order itself, and thus could be impersonal. Early Christians (could've, probably. maybe) needed a more personal, concerned God that would save them from their anomic living conditions (which can be seen in the rise of mystery cults and savior gods in the Hellenistic Era of the Roman Empire).

Of course, it's far from that clear cut, but I do think it's an interesting perspective to consider.

Heh, sorry, innerlight, I don't really mean this as aimed all at you, just some general muses on the subject I felt like putting forth.

Thanks Matt for answering my post querying the contradiction in having the 2 different kinds of Gods portrayed in Christianity. Your understanding of this situation rings true to me, i.e. that the respective societies created an image of their God to fit/reflect the times they were going through.

[Seawolf]

Originally Posted by amy green

Thanks Matt for answering my post querying the contradiction in having the 2 different kinds of Gods portrayed in Christianity. Your understanding of this situation rings true to me, i.e. that the respective societies created an image of their God to fit/reflect the times they were going through.

I agree, it's natural occurrence in every culture.

In the US we're traditionally Christian, so we often feel inclined to have a definite position on the bible. But really there's no one that says you have to decide if it's true or not. It only matters if it matters to you.

Originally Posted by amy green

Thanks Matt for answering my post querying the contradiction in having the 2 different kinds of Gods portrayed in Christianity.

It could also be that this spirit that is described in the bible has two sides to him, like many other spirits have. Not even gods are perfect, so why should we pretend that they are.

[Morpheus]

It could also be that this spirit that is described in the bible has two sides to him, like many other spirits have. Not even a gods are perfect, so why should we pretend that they are.

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For I, the LORD, do not change; therefore you, O sons of Jacob, are not consumed. King James Bible

bible.cc/malachi/3-6.htm

Again, there are the answers, but, they are not available to the disaffected.

As stated in Far Eastern teachings, "change" and variableness is all about this illusory material world.
The, Maya".
Not about that which is apart from time. (And, space).

"Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above,
and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, nor shadow of turning."
Bible, James 1:17

You disaffected act as if there is no conflict, violence or crime in humanity apart from religion.
Foolish, isn't it?

www.dreamindemon.com

Now, if there is a "Father of Lights", then, who are, "The Lights"?

"When under observation atoms take on a physical form, image and definition which we perceive as our reality. This means that the world and universe we perceive is not absolute or constant, an example of this is you could be walking down a street and once you have passed a certain location the atoms behind you could simply fall apart and lose their definition.
Atoms can only hold our reality together for as long as we observe them.

Without humans and consciousness their would be no reality and everything we know would not exist including our reality and the universe as we know it. It is our consciousness which shapes our imaginary holographic 3d reality and as us humans are also made up of atoms we observe our own holographic physical appearing self so we can too interact in the material world even though we are just energy beings."
http://www.afterlifeandbeyond.com/reality/

Yes you found an answer, but it only said he do not change, not that he is perfect

Originally Posted by Morpheus

As stated in Far Eastern teachings, "change" and variableness is all about this illusory material world.
The, Maya".
Not about that which is apart from time. (And, space).

"Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above,
and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, nor shadow of turning."
Bible, James 1:17

You disaffected act as if there is no conflict, violence or crime in humanity apart from religion.
Foolish, isn't it?

www.dreamindemon.com

Now, if there is a "Father of Lights", then, who are, "The Lights"?

"When under observation atoms take on a physical form, image and definition which we perceive as our reality. This means that the world and universe we perceive is not absolute or constant, an example of this is you could be walking down a street and once you have passed a certain location the atoms behind you could simply fall apart and lose their definition.
Atoms can only hold our reality together for as long as we observe them.

Without humans and consciousness their would be no reality and everything we know would not exist including our reality and the universe as we know it. It is our consciousness which shapes our imaginary holographic 3d reality and as us humans are also made up of atoms we observe our own holographic physical appearing self so we can too interact in the material world even though we are just energy beings."
http://www.afterlifeandbeyond.com/reality/

Quoting other religions and quantum physics/metaphysical belief... Both of which are taboo in Christianity. On which side of the road do you stand?

[Miss Hepburn]

Originally Posted by amy green

Very well argued and depicted Mind's Eye.

Well done... - you have my respect!

Agreed.
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[Miss Hepburn]

Originally Posted by Mind's Eye

Why then are these contradictions and mistakes in an infallible book?

Well, it's pretty obvious - it is not infallible.

That does not mean there are not plenty of truths in it, Morphie.

[Miss Hepburn]

Originally Posted by Mind's Eye

Quoting other religions and quantum physics/metaphysical belief... Both of which are taboo in Christianity.
On which side of the road do you stand?

Same road I do...no ''sides''...
Accepting quantum physics, science, Christ, Eastern beliefs, Sufiism, etc.
Morphie and I go way back. We differ occasionally...

Morphie, that word 'disaffected' is a turn off on a forum...what were you thinking!?

Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn

it is not infallible.

Nothing ever really is or is, because fallible is a matter of perspective. Non of us ever fail even when we fail. I am perfect because I am not