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Old 18-11-2020, 08:02 AM
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You say oneness is every where yet it is only in the minds of those who believe in it

Yes I get what you're saying, but if you take something like Gravity. Do you need to believe in Gravity for to see it working etc ? Joe.

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Old 18-11-2020, 08:39 AM
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Yes I get what you're saying, but if you take something like Gravity. Do you need to believe in Gravity for to see it working etc ? Joe.

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That is an invalid analogy because you're using something that everybody experiences whether they like it or not and it is in manifest physical form obviously

Which is completely different than the concept of non-duality which has no manifest physical form and is merely conceptual.
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Old 18-11-2020, 01:23 PM
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That is an invalid analogy because you're using something that everybody experiences whether they like it or not and it is in manifest physical form obviously

Which is completely different than the concept of non-duality which has no manifest physical form and is merely conceptual.

Yeah ?? Invalid analogy that's a new one !!!
And non duality has no manifest physical form, merely conceptual ? Really ? Sorry about that !!! lol. If that is what you think who am I to argue with you ? :) Joe.

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Old 18-11-2020, 01:55 PM
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Yeah ?? Invalid analogy that's a new one !!!
And non duality has no manifest physical form, merely conceptual ? Really ? Sorry about that !!! lol. If that is what you think who am I to argue with you ? :) Joe.

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No reson to argue im just trying to have a conversation.
But i guess you don't have anything to add/ rebuttal
And that's fine . have a good day.
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Old 19-11-2020, 05:28 AM
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No reson to argue im just trying to have a conversation.
But i guess you don't have anything to add/ rebuttal
And that's fine . have a good day.

Just one more thing, I noticed that those 3 words have a special resonance in each other's company, GRAVITY, INVALID, ANALOGY ! So if you know the Bee Gee's hit single, TRAGEDY ! Then actually you can fit those words nicely into that melody, it fits perfectly.....

GRAVITY !!!!!! ITS AN INVALID ANALOGY !!!!
GRAVITY !!!!!! ITS AN INVALID ANALOGY !!!!
OH GRAVITY !!!!! ITS AN INVALID ANALOGY ....and so on ...

Ok on that note i'll bid you Adieu my friend. Anon. Peace.

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The Frost performs its secret ministry,Unhelped by any wind. Samuel Taylor Coleridge

And you won't find that Love comes easy but that Love is always right.So even when the dark clouds gather you will be the light.

All Intellect falls prey to Love's Glory ! Rumi

He Made the Lock, He also Made the Key ! Rumi
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Old 20-11-2020, 07:43 PM
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Just one more thing, I noticed that those 3 words have a special resonance in each other's company, GRAVITY, INVALID, ANALOGY ! So if you know the Bee Gee's hit single, TRAGEDY ! Then actually you can fit those words nicely into that melody, it fits perfectly.....

GRAVITY !!!!!! ITS AN INVALID ANALOGY !!!!
GRAVITY !!!!!! ITS AN INVALID ANALOGY !!!!
OH GRAVITY !!!!! ITS AN INVALID ANALOGY ....and so on ...

Ok on that note i'll bid you Adieu my friend. Anon. Peace.

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....ok ...well have a good day..
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Old 21-11-2020, 06:58 AM
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....ok ...well have a good day..

No problem thanks, you too. Look what i was going to say is. What you said suggested that matter and spirit are separated. And they are but at one level they really seem to be two separate issues but non duality can also deal with duality. It can deal with matter and spirit and separateness no problem. I was only trying to point to gravity like pointing to birth and death to find, as you so rightly pointed out that it is a common thing that we share, all of humanity share it. I did this as a counter argument against ..what some people have called terminal uniquess, i am a long lasting separate individual entity who will enjoy this state of owning a body etc. for along time and in a certain way. This not true and is the work of the Ego.
So folks cant even admit to breathing the same air as you or experiencing the same laws as you, Gravity etc. and they are trying to find oneness. yeah right ! that was my point Maya El.
Anyway Maya El i dont find it easy to speak about these things at all. To describe spiritual experiences in words etc. and argumentation. Tres difficile my friend. Joe.

Ps. ...i play music alot and sing so i found the rhythm in those words quite easily so forgive me for that !!!

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He Made the Lock, He also Made the Key ! Rumi
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