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Old 14-11-2020, 03:44 AM
Lovelytony22 Lovelytony22 is offline
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How Do Jews Feel When They Read These Verses From The NT

"Jesus said to him,*的 am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the*Father*except*through*me" (John 14:6).

"For God did not appoint us to wrath, but to the obtaining of*salvation*through our Lord Jesus*Christ" (1 Thessalonians 5:9).

The Messiah says salvation comes through him alone. He was rejected and crucified 2000 years ago. In our 21st, do Jews still reject him as the Messiah?
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Old 15-11-2020, 03:52 AM
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John 14:6....... Jesus is the mediator between man and God. He is the first born of creation and the rest of creation was accomplished by him. These were new revelations that were revealed by Jesus. For a Jew, no mediator is needed.
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Old 19-11-2020, 08:50 PM
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"Jesus said to him,*的 am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the*Father*except*through*me" (John 14:6).

"For God did not appoint us to wrath, but to the obtaining of*salvation*through our Lord Jesus*Christ" (1 Thessalonians 5:9).

The Messiah says salvation comes through him alone. He was rejected and crucified 2000 years ago. In our 21st, do Jews still reject him as the Messiah?

As a Christian you hold to certain beliefs, you subscribe to certain theological viewpoints and suppositions. Those beliefs, viewpoints, suppositions are alien to Judaism. As such, your question is meaningless to a Jew.

It is much like if a Muslim, coming from an Islamic viewpoint, were to ask if Christians still reject Muhammad as the last and greatest prophet of G-d.

I suspect, correct me if I am wrong, that you know few, if any, Jews and that you have little, if any, knowledge of Judaism.

I知 all for dialogue, but I have neither the need nor the desire to debate religion. If you operate on the assumption that Jews are spiritually blind and/or spiritually ignorant or if you view Jews as some sort of spiritual reclamation project, we won稚 be speaking much.
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Old 20-11-2020, 03:45 PM
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"Jesus said to him,*的 am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the*Father*except*through*me" (John 14:6).

"For God did not appoint us to wrath, but to the obtaining of*salvation*through our Lord Jesus*Christ" (1 Thessalonians 5:9).

The Messiah says salvation comes through him alone. He was rejected and crucified 2000 years ago. In our 21st, do Jews still reject him as the Messiah?

I do not know any Jews who read the New Testament so I would say those scriptures would, for the most part, be meaningless.
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Old 20-11-2020, 08:12 PM
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I do not know any Jews who read the New Testament so I would say those scriptures would, for the most part, be meaningless.
I guess I know more Jews than you do. I know many who have read Christian scripture. It doesn稚 make them any more meaningful.
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Old 20-11-2020, 08:17 PM
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As a Christian you hold to certain beliefs, you subscribe to certain theological viewpoints and suppositions. Those beliefs, viewpoints, suppositions are alien to Judaism. As such, your question is meaningless to a Jew.

It is much like if a Muslim, coming from an Islamic viewpoint, were to ask if Christians still reject Muhammad as the last and greatest prophet of G-d.

I suspect, correct me if I am wrong, that you know few, if any, Jews and that you have little, if any, knowledge of Judaism.

I知 all for dialogue, but I have neither the need nor the desire to debate religion. If you operate on the assumption that Jews are spiritually blind and/or spiritually ignorant or if you view Jews as some sort of spiritual reclamation project, we won稚 be speaking much.
Good points, nicely stated, although probably a waste of time in the case of this OP. But, one does what one believes is right.
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