I AM THE WAY....

[sky]

"Jesus said I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me" (John 14:6).


This Verse puzzled me in my Youth, I personally don't think Jesus would say something like this, it seems like Religion Racism.

I wondered should " I found the way, the truth and the life " make more sense. Surely other belief systems have access to ' Our Father ' .

[Altair]

But who is ''the Father''? You gotta believe in that first..

I don't call the spiritual a ''father'' or ''he''..

Amen and awoman!

[hallow]

Originally Posted by Altair

But who is ''the Father''? You gotta believe in that first..

I don't call the spiritual a ''father'' or ''he''..

Amen and awoman!

" The father" what if, the bible was part guide to a child. The father being literal. A child's..... Father. Or... being referred to a "father" of a church?

Originally Posted by hallow

" The father" what if, the bible was part guide to a child. The father being literal. A child's..... Father. Or... being referred to a "father" of a church?

i had a mean father so i can't relate to the idea at all, my mother was not much better, so be better for me if god is not called a father or mother

i'd like it better if it was "god the child" so it's not just somebody who's job it is to tell you what to do

Originally Posted by sky123

"Jesus said I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me" (John 14:6).


This Verse puzzled me in my Youth, I personally don't think Jesus would say something like this, it seems like Religion Racism.

I wondered should " I found the way, the truth and the life " make more sense. Surely other belief systems have access to ' Our Father ' .

Sky123,

I have mentioned this before but for a long time I have chosen to read all of the ‘I am’ statements as...The I AM is the way...etc. One must define the I am as something different than the ego. I choose to identify it as the process of discovering our divinity and oneness with God. Essentially it is the process of spiritual development. This might seem to far into left field for many.......:)

An addendum to my post.....Paul points to this possibility in Galatians 2:20....”I have been crucified with Christ and I(ego I ?) no longer live, but Christ lives in me.” When one reads the I AM statements put in your mind that Jesus is speaking as the Christ not simply as Jesus the mortal man.

[neil]

Originally Posted by Molearner

An addendum to my post.....Paul points to this possibility in Galatians 2:20....”I have been crucified with Christ and I(ego I ?) no longer live, but Christ lives in me.” When one reads the I AM statements put in your mind that Jesus is speaking as the Christ not simply as Jesus the mortal man.

Yes as you say above.

I am led to understand that the bible is not on the money, as i mentioned yesterday.
And unbelievably as per usual very few people of this forum, ever bother to post comment in reply.

If Jesus did exist, he was probably murdered, in what ever way that it did happen.
Though the shedding of his blood does not save any person, because he was simply Jesus, the christed being. A person that then became one of the almighty Christ entities family. He is not the savior nor the one & only son of the all mighty.

The almighty came into being, so, did a son come into being as well.
The one that the almighty is well pleased in is his ver own "Christ essence". And that is the stuff, that transforms natural spiritual man into the son/daughter of the almighty Christ entity.

The cross is within. And the first use & origin of the word crucify was mid 14 century, See below.
It also says to see crux, which is also pasted further down

Quote....
crucify (v.)
mid-14c., "to put to death by nailing or otherwise affixing to a cross," from Old French crucifer crucefiier (12c., Modern French crucifier), from Vulgar Latin *crucificare, from Late Latin crucifigere "to fasten to a cross," from cruci, dative of Latin crux "cross" (see crux)

Quote....
crux (n.)
the most important point;

The most important point, is within the self, as depicted in 2000 year old biblical paintings. The glowing area around the head of Jesus & the likes.

The most important point of natural spiritual mankind is the Soul'self. It is what the almighty desires to alter/reconstruct/transform into the likeness of his self.

Crucified in Christ. To give up your "natural spiritual Soul'self.
The Soul to be reconstructed into the very essence of God the Father Christ entity.
He is not your father yet, he is the creator of all "identityless blank souls".
Souls that lay in waiting, for parents to enstill with conscious life AND an identity.

After an individual is transformed, that is when the creator becomes the individuals Heavenly Father.

From yesterdays post regarding the transformation.
https://www.padgettmessages.net/mess...trinity10.html

[Miss Hepburn]

Originally Posted by Molearner

Sky123, I have mentioned this before but for a long time I have chosen to read all of the ‘I am’ statements as...
The I AM is the way...

I know, a friend told me about that ...

@Altair: I have to say a pronoun for God when writing; all authors know that so usually say that from the start...that we all know
He has no gender and is Spirit.
(But I gotta tell ya ---when you have exp'd God up close and personal ---it is so magnificently, gloriously, powerful the whole encounter 'seems' masculine.)
So I understand why civilizations have said 'He'.
BUT!

If someone their whole life worshiped God as the Divine Goddess - I betcha if God visited them He could come as an
Angelic beautiful Goddess/Mother. Me personally, I am NOT saying 'It'.
I fig if Jesus can say Abba, Father, He ---it's good enough for me.

@sky, I know, that ONE and only sentence is the cause of so much judgment, finger-pointing, accusations, put downs,
shunning and fear, (you're going to hell), and battles than any other sentence in the Bible, don't ya think?

[Still_Waters]

Originally Posted by Molearner

Sky123,

I have mentioned this before but for a long time I have chosen to read all of the ‘I am’ statements as...The I AM is the way...etc. One must define the I am as something different than the ego. I choose to identify it as the process of discovering our divinity and oneness with God. Essentially it is the process of spiritual development. This might seem to far into left field for many.......:)

Amen ! Amen ! Amen !

[BigJohn]

Originally Posted by sky123

"Jesus said I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me" (John 14:6).


This Verse puzzled me in my Youth, I personally don't think Jesus would say something like this, it seems like Religion Racism.

I wondered should " I found the way, the truth and the life " make more sense. Surely other belief systems have access to ' Our Father ' .

John 14:6 is in harmony with 1 Timothy 2:5 which reads from the NIV translations as:

"For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus,"