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Old 12-10-2019, 04:20 PM
guthrio guthrio is offline
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Originally Posted by Greenslade
My dear Guthrio

While I can appreciate this might be your cup of tea it's just not palatable for me. Sorry and all that. Especially -

This is a Journey to Self but there is a wider understanding of just what that Self ism because often we are here for others as much as ourselves. It's the experiences that help us grow - or hinder us depending on how we deal with them. The Soul is never confined but can encompass several states of existence at the same time.

The Soul is both the butterfly that dreams it is a Samurai and the Samurai that dreams it/he is a butterfly - and both, and neither. And in a state of Paradoxical Thinking understands the encompassing multi-dimensional consciousness. One-dimensionality is a single axis, three-dimensional reality encompasses (encompasses is the key word) three axes with two dimensions of consciousness encompassing those again.

Incidentaly, I was watching a YouTube that says the mathematical basis for reality is not a 3D model as scientists have been saying for years, but a six-dimensional crystalline matrix.

Brother Greenslade,

It is always interesting to me to ascertain how difficult it seems (for me) to resist applying perceptual maps to The Reality which is actually beyond the reach of descriptions, even those comprising our respective "cups of tea", no matter how well articulated!

I am happy to be reminded by your words how necessary it is (for me) to "empty the cup", too often over-filled with my own descriptions, models, maps, matrices, and methods masquerading as the "best" means to experience the "way It is".

I am also reminded that, except as metaphors and analogies, there are no Samurai's that dream it/he is a butterfly or butterflys dreaming the reverse, or dimensions or 'planes of existence'...because the map, of our definitions, metaphors, or analogies, is not the territory, of Reality. Nor even this analogy of It.

As WeAreUnity states so eloquently, as excerpted from his answer, above, to the OP's question, "Why is it so hard to define Spirituality?":

"As a suggestion. An awareness of being an interconnected part of all which is--and was and will be--initially, and then doing your best to live in harmony with that awareness. This removes separation, making the everyday spiritual and vice versa. In a way this also removes any need for definition. petex"

His suggestion points to a way (for me) to remember the importance of emptying myself...as I AM "full-fills' Its purpose for creating vessels to fill with Itself...though even when "the cup runneth over", It eternally remains I AM THAT I AM.
“Why, that’s true! I am a perfect, unlimited gull!” Jonathan opened his eyes asking, "Where are we?” The Elder Chiang said, “We’re on some planet with a green sky and a double star for a sun.” Jonathan made a scree of delight. “IT WORKS!" “Well, of course it works, Jon,” said Chiang. “It always works, when you know what you’re doing." (and even when you don't)

Last edited by guthrio : 13-10-2019 at 01:32 AM. Reason: clarify inputs
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