Indigenous Spirit of All colors

[sentient]

Originally Posted by ImthatIm

I have no real experience of Wolf or Wolf Shamanism.
I have only experienced a few people which claim Wolf Spirit help.
So I can't really say anything on that subject.

Well, I don’t know either … shapeshifting?
Ha!
Found this:

Author: Valadez, Susana
Title: Wolf power and interspecies communication in Huichol shamanism
This document discusses aspects of traditional Huichol religion involving the identification of wolves with shamans. The power of transformation into a wolf is held by only the most exceptional shamans. This special, "shape-shifting" relationship with the wolf is a means of comprehending and re-forming the divine world prior to the separation of humans from the animal realm.

More on the subject:
https://books.google.com.au/books?id...manism&f=false

Of course, stories of shapeshifting had always been told. Ours being about turning into Wolves and/or Bears. (The most common of these stories were, when a bear had been killed, they found a medicine pouch around its neck).

I suspect this kind of “Wolf Shamanism” also has to do with disappearing/reappearing … disappearing into a tree or any object, teleportation, bi-location … floating up to the tree tops … (our famous shaman also did, written even in court records … because he was frequently arrested for being a vagrant, heh, his feats then causing such a mayhem).
Only lesser shamen took Fly Agaric, they say ....

And I suspect it has got to do with the “Magical Cords” coming from one’s navel area (those that look like sun-rays or like a spider-web filaments):
https://www.dhushara.com/book/genaro/genaro.htm

I mean. We knew about it, Aborigines were/are experts in this … and since this has also been written about Huichols, cultures that did not know anything about each other ……………………

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[sentient]

I know this is a far cry from NAC Peyote Ceremonies …. but they for Westernern imagination do seem to hold a great appeal.

Apparently now also - one can become a shaman (having lived a journey of a shaman) i.e. "by selling drugs at 12, taking steroids, sniffing a lot of cocaine, a couple of years in prison … then doing retreats with ayahuasca, bufo, kambo" …..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lld8KpTW8RA

Oh, my ….

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sentient
Post #801 has a lot I will have to go over and digest.

Now your vid. in #802 all I can say is Danger, Danger.
I find that kind of treatment and use of medicines scary and disrespectful.
But hey what do I know?
I never seem to be amazed at what people will do next.

Originally Posted by sentient

it makes me wonder if peyote use is part of the reason for ‘fake tribes’ seeking recognition?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._United_States

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I imagine some seek recognition for that purpose.
I do know that $..Casino..$ building is a bigger reason.


It was Ironic that I seen Duwamish on the unrecognized list.
https://www.duwamishtribe.org/


My first Native teacher was part Duwamish.

I hate using the word teacher, since He was a friend but teacher will do.
Anyway, the city of Seattle named after Chief Sealth was basically built on Duwamish land.
My friend looked exactly like Chief Sealth and was a descendant.

Bird Medicine and the Art of Feathers with Ernesto Olmos 11:05mins.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ps2fJBakUzg

[sentient]

Originally Posted by ImthatIm

Now your vid. in #802 all I can say is Danger, Danger.
I find that kind of treatment and use of medicines scary and disrespectful.

I don’t think the indian hobbyists dressing up and doing pow wows see what they are doing as disrespectful. I think they see it as honouring the spirit of the Indian.

Similarly, the drug pushers, now born-again non-native ‘shaman-priests' no doubt see themselves as genuine too, providing a service.

Even though what looks like a wholesome South American native practice to me, not every native in Americas seem to agree with the NAC.
But that is none-of-my-business.

But I would imagine psychedelics could have a role in treatment of mental disorders, so perhaps they should be researched properly.

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[sentient]

Originally Posted by ImthatIm

I imagine some seek recognition for that purpose.
I do know that $..Casino..$ building is a bigger reason.

It was Ironic that I seen Duwamish on the unrecognized list.
https://www.duwamishtribe.org/

Watched a few videos on tribal disenrollments … and difficulties of some to enrol …
Heart-wrenching stories.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxRwGcDh_-Y

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Thank you for this thread ImthatIm. This has been a bit of a learning curve.

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Lovely South American wind instruments:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzoiL7x56Eo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXnFsU7jxbw
Didn't we all have clay-whistles as kids?

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Originally Posted by sentient

Watched a few videos on tribal disenrollments … and difficulties of some to enrol …
Heart-wrenching stories.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxRwGcDh_-Y

Ouchie!!
Unfortunately I know about divisions in families and cliques.

Originally Posted by sentient

Lovely South American wind instruments:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzoiL7x56Eo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXnFsU7jxbw
Didn't we all have clay-whistles as kids?

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Whoa.
Very impressive sounds. I am highly interested and will be searching out more
of this type of ear candy.
I have always liked the pan-flute also.

Originally Posted by sentient

Thank you for this thread ImthatIm. This has been a bit of a learning curve.

Thanks you too, I like staying on the curve.