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Old 09-01-2021, 04:36 AM
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Can Oneness only manifest as an ilusion Of Two? If so why? I would be intested in responses to that question.

Oneness never manifest as an illusion of the two. The illusion is not found in oneness manifesting as the two. This physical world is made solid through the aperture of one's own awareness. The illusion is found in unconsciously claiming that perception as "my own". It is that filter which grows an identity in a world of duality. The illussion is found in the deep seeded attachment to an identification within the manifestation of the "one becoming the many".

The human condition brings fourth a solid perception of separateness, which eventually evolves a sense of position. This position grows an identity, which through its growing conditioning, becomes totally identified with its physical reality.

Your identification, as a separate singularity in this reality, is the glue which keeps the physical world an on going conceptual experience. The identification is maintained by the on-going process of thought...or the unconscious thinking process.

The projection is an expression from consciousness made physical. A physical reality not subject to ownership or coveting of any kind.. but only subject to fundamental awareness. The illusion is where oneness/consciousness contracted, and becoming dual, grew an identity fragmented in all that is filters with its senses and assumed its world as its own.
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Old 02-04-2021, 07:53 AM
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Yes of course. What I am wondering about is why it has to manifest as the the many. Why is it not possible for it to manifest as Oneness DIRECTLY, and not bother with appearing as the illusion of the many at all? It seems that the reason could be that it cant because the appearance of Oneness directly would be no manifstation at all as no contrast.
Oneness does manifest itself directly as the eternal and infinite right here and right now. The eternal and infinite right here and right now is not hidden or invisible to a person's awareness/perception, people are not aware/perceive and experience the eternal and infinite right here and right now with their own 2 eyes with the mental and emotional duality of separation, because they simply do not fully know the eternal and infinite right here and right now.

Oneness does manifest itself as a oneness individual-an individual whom is an individual but not separate from oneness, when the individual is aware of the situation and fact that he/she is an individual but not separate from oneness, the oneness of the the eternal and infinite right here and right now that is not hidden or invisible to him/her.

The key is to be aware of the fact and situation that we are individuals who are not separate from oneness. Awareness/being aware of this situation and fact takes mental effort while just being conscious/consciousness does not take any mental effort at all. Awareness/being aware is a mental understanding and knowing while being conscious/consciousness is not. Awareness/being aware of this situation and fact that we all take part of, is an aspect of the mind and requires a person to think/have thoughts based on truth. Consciousness does not have any thoughts about anything, consciousness is just conscious.

A person whom claims to not know is koan like, which proves his/her not knowing the truth of being an individual whom is not separate from the oneness of the eternal and infinite right here and right now.
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