Robert Adams

[Tara5]

Originally Posted by muffin

Yes things do resonate to us thru scriptures, doctrines, poetry, music and life, for me daz theres heaps of different ways, all sign posts in there own way and they are just that.

[Tara5]

The best thing you can do is not react to anything, but to act from your heart with love, compassion, peace, and let the chips fall where they may.

As you begin not to react to conditions, you find that your thoughts become weaker and weaker. Your mind, which is merely a bundle of thoughts, wants you to react. The greater the reaction, the stronger the mind. And the stronger the mind, the greater the maya. You get pulled into the game.

When you stop reacting, the mind doesn't like that. Therefore it will bring up all kinds of things. It'll show you all kinds of pictures, make you feel all kinds of negative conditions, so that you will want to react. You therefore have to watch yourself, pay attention to yourself, watch how you react to conditions, watch the nature of your mind.

Robert Adams

[God-Like]

Originally Posted by Tara5

Oh, really?

Let's say, you are just in the middle of a nice, romantic dream...when suddenly your alarm goes off....Now, you're awake....you wake up in a confused state...disoriented...not knowing, where you are, who you are....

The same happens, when we wake up out of the Illusion (dream)....take a while to sink in.

It is called LOVE.

Would love to know more about her teachings/spiritual path/journey....if you don't mind.

I've nothing is do with this world, is not a concept or mindful conclusions...it's a KNOWING...

When i say, i've nothing to do with this body means...i have dropped my attachments...I no longer get identified with this body...


Direct experiencing is different from reciting the bible etc...

I've already answered these questions......

I have said many times that I am not disputing Adams realisation . What I am disputing is what is reflected in what has been taught by other’s in order for Adams to understand what he initially didn’t.

You are not grasping what I am saying in regards to conclusions made post-realisation. You say that ‘I have nothing to do with this world’ is a knowing, but this knowing is not realised it is a conclusion.

What would you say to someone who has realized what they are who say’s that I am not the world and I am the world .

By your understanding this would equally be a knowing but it would be an incorrect knowing based upon your belief in what Adams has said.

I promise you there is the understanding had that I am both the world and not the world .

You are believing in just one side of the coin like said .

If you believe that you have nothing to do with the world then what is the world? What is the world that is not what you are?

In regards to LOVE in reference to Adams devotion of Ramana’s teachings, you can call it what you like, it doesn’t however alter the fact that he believes in Ramana’s teachings and he believes that what he say’s is true . He never had these understandings prior to learning his teachings.

So again let me say that certain teachers that teach, teach from the knowledge attained by other’s and teach through studying the scriptures..

You say direct experiencing is different from reciting the bible etc... but you don't directly experience that I am not the world.

You seem to be confused in what constitutes direct experience and what you conclude.

You don't directly experience that you have nothing to do with the world. You realise that what you are exists beyond the world.

You don't seem to see the difference in what I am pointing at.

The conclusion that I have nothing to do with the world is just a mindful conclusion and not a direct experience.

Do you understand?



x daz x

[Tara5]

Originally Posted by God-Like

I have said many times that I am not disputing Adams realisation . What I am disputing is what is reflected in what has been taught by other’s in order for Adams to understand what he initially didn’t.

No, i don't....coz, you're speaking from your mind (intellect) and i'm speaking from my heart (trust/surrender)....we are speaking totally different languages...And, it's Okay....

[Unseeking Seeker]

"Do not look for signs.
Do not look for experiences.
Do not be so complicated.
Become like a child.
See everything with awe." ~ Robert Adams

[Miss Hepburn]

Originally Posted by Unseeking Seeker

"Do not look for signs.
Do not look for experiences.
Do not be so complicated.
Become like a child.
See everything with awe." ~ Robert Adams

I mean, you could take that ...wonder off...and never read another thing!

[Miss Hepburn]

Originally Posted by God-Like

I am pointing out the differences between realization and man made concepts and conclusions .

I am pointing out the dangers of reaching out to the public as teachers proclaiming not
to have anything to do with the world and the body just as an example .

Ooooo, the (((dangers))).

Sorry, I will leave you to it, you are on a mission...it's not mine....so...
whatever floats your boat, daz...enjoy.
......................last thing:
"I have said many times that I am not disputing Adams realisation .
What I am disputing is what is reflected in what has been taught by other’s
in order for Adams to understand what he initially didn’t."-daz

Ya know. I have had Divine experiences (for exactly this yr, ha! 5 decades...damn, 6 decades, forgot 2 as
a little kid)...''Visitations'' ... from God, the Father, my Father.
THEN! uh-oh, here it comes ...
I started listening to Christian stuff...and Shazam! I changed that to
'the Holy Spirit'....I understood my own exp differently because of what others exp'd.
It was the Holy Spirit and if I had never heard this word from someone else ....
I also would not have known to call it 'Grace'.
Those darn Christian teachers they deepened my understanding!!!

[Unseeking Seeker]

***

The fragmented mind
Cannot find
The whole
The soul
The essence
Of divine presence
The fragrance
Of innocence
Or dance
In an ecstatic trance
Of joy
Without egoic ploy

a poem by ... who knows ... who cares ... as long as we choose to pair

***

[muffin]

Originally Posted by Tara5

I've nothing is do with this world, is not a concept or mindful conclusions...it's a KNOWING...

When i say, i've nothing to do with this body means...i have dropped my attachments...I no longer get identified with this body...

Good afternoon Tara5

Body and Attachments, are two different things.

The body doesn't want for anything

So where does attachments lie.

Got to careful on these boards, you'll be pulled up on the smallest of things

[Tara5]

Originally Posted by Unseeking Seeker

"Do not look for signs.
Do not look for experiences.
Do not be so complicated.
Become like a child.
See everything with awe." ~ Robert Adams