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Old 29-02-2024, 02:54 PM
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2-29-24 …

So … if we design our own lifetime … according to the habits and patterns we bring along from previous lives … and slowly realize that these must be at least somewhat revised to bring us more contentment, success, benefit, harmony … whatever “advancement” one may desire … then what stops us?

The human state of consciousness … most any state of consciousness one can devise unless and until one clearly and unquestionably steps *out* of the Lower Psychic / Metaphysical Worlds and into / onto the Pure God Worlds … the first steps being into / onto the 5th Plane … Atma Lok … Sat Lok … by other names … at least for the decided moment out and beyond their prevailing habits and perceptions via the Lower Psychic / Metaphysical Worlds … mind, body, emotions … until that happens … the individual is living within the human state of consciousness. You can count on it.

Again … movement into the area of the 5th Plane is *not* done by demand, declaration, claim, statement. As a total weeding out process … only an authentic Master … one who not only has taken this step … but *many* more beyond until that individual has clearly and unquestionably stood before the Core Creator God … an entity of this level is the only entity that can take another to … and into … the 5th Plane. This is for security reasons … purity reasons if you will … not only to keep that “area” pure … but to make sure that the individual can handle the inflow of energies and forces that will be absorbed into the individual … these same forces and energies *have* indeed unbalanced many in the past and that landed many in various levels of mental wards or simply totally and completely ostracized by society.

This human state of consciousness is a protective, combative, suspicious, resistant, excuse-making machine. The old example of a mother bear protecting her cub pales by comparison. We have all died for our beliefs … many times. We will not give them up … and will defend them until death … physical or otherwise.

There is no one way to overcome this because there is no one way that it is confronted. Each brings their own spin … and strength … to resist. The various races compound it all as they wrestle with what the various societies throw at them because of race. The two sexes have their bouts and wrestling matches according to the genetic body … male or female. Rich or poor … strong or weak … all tweak and vary what we face with each incarnation.

With each incarnation … the physical body is clearly “new” … but the emotional habits and mental patterns tend to color all we face anew … with each lifetime … changing and adapting to the new conditions and social structures we must live within for the current lifetime.

And we will … defend … at all cost … because not only do we wish to survive … but we wish to survive *this* way and *that* way … with *these* accumulations. We demand LIFE adhere to what we want.

This is not necessarily a criticism. We know what we want. We know what will make our lifetime and lifestyle easier and more successful. It’s not difficult to declare. What trips us up even more are those “out-of-the-blue” situations where we respond in clearly unbalanced ways. Our reaction doesn’t really justify reacting the way we do … because we are reacting from an old pattern that does not specifically apply to this lifetime but it’s as close as we can come to reacting to a similar situation … so we use that pattern … we apply it to the “now” … and roll with the punches.

These “flashpoints” are imprints from a long time ago. An easy example that most of us can watch happening around us in news clips and movies … some rather tense situation confronts a person and that person quickly declares “I’m going to die.” Well … a declaration like that is not genetic. Unless a person has died in *this* lifetime … there’s no way they have a sense of what it is like to “die” … unless they have done it … many, many, many times. And so … they are instantly reacting to the long-ago references to the endless ways they have been led to death -… when the current situation may require a bit of tedious action but is not so drastic as to hint at imminent death. The fear from those previous lifetimes brings up the immediate reaction. We all have these within.

All other flashpoints work along the same way.

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Old 01-03-2024, 02:01 PM
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3-1-24 …

It is often whispered to the intrigued student that “words are the greatest architecture” of all. It is not suggested loudly … because it will be dismissed. One can “yell” as loudly as they wish … they will not be heard until someone is ready to listen. There’s that word again … “listen.”

If one believes that their mental chatter is “too loud” … then you would be amazed at what this “too loud chatter” is telling you … even during the “good” times.

The suggestion is … begin to find the “correct” definition for the words that you use … and then use them wisely … with wisdom. How many words today are being “re-defined” … right in front of our eyes. Those who supposedly know … tell us the old words were wrong and their new definitions are the greater of the two. Think how that would have all played out before the times of the internet … and cell phones … and the mainstream media. Think how “laborious” it was to go find a dictionary … and that dictionary was pertinent only to the group that was using it.

Words have been intentionally misdirected to cause confusion. Many definitions are “close” … but just distant enough to slightly mislead. As one begins to take the more advanced steps on the path … the initial whispered suggestion is meant to nudge the student to sort through all the “meaningful” or distinctive words that have accumulated and find the most concise, direct definition of intent … and then stick to that definition.

A good case-in-point is the word … consciousness. There is nothing mysterious in the principle of consciousness but it has been tweaked and misused so many times that the definition is blurred. A great way to look at the definition of consciousness is … ”life of” … which can be further deepened into … “the Spirit of” … the “Life Force of” … here in the Lower Psychic / Metaphysical Worlds … the “energy of.”

Consciousness is … potential. Consciousness is … options. Consciousness is the force or energy behind each and every facet or aspect or … thing … depending on what the state of consciousness is.

You distinguish this by your focused awareness … what are you aware of within the entirety of consciousness? Consciousness would be the entire schoolroom process from birth to pre-school to the middle and high schools and on into the college levels. The “grade” you are in … is your awareness. You are aware of third grade math or high school physics within the entirety of the overall curriculum.

The same is true as one pieces together the entirety of LIFE. You are in the “classroom” of materiality … of “things”, situations, events, conditions … advancing into the later grades of how to direct the energies that give these facets … ( things, situations, events, conditions ) … enough “life” to be in your awareness … all done through the psychic or metaphysical energies of focus and intent … whether it was willful or otherwise … and then on into the “force” of consciousness without shape, form, direction in the far, advanced steps on the path.

There was a thread opened lately … can one “work” towards ones ascension? The word “ascension” is a word to confuse … because it is fraught with mystery and a vagueness which leaves it open to even what it is. Maybe the question would be better understood if one asked … can one work towards their own growth … or maybe … can one intentionally learn?

No doubt … one can intentionally learn … or … you can just wait each step out until LIFE hammers you so many times in the forehead that you almost have to accept … or learn … or keep one getting pounded. As humorous as this distinction may be … it is what each of us are doing … or have done.

The choice is yours.

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Old 04-03-2024, 02:07 PM
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3-4-24 …

In keeping with the final post of last week … let’s consider another word or two this week.

“Karma” is a rather large word promoted by Hinduism and / or Buddhism. Looking objectively at even the promotion of the word … let’s just say … one has entered “high school” when they begin to consider these principles. “Karma” is a word used to “define” the principle of of action / reaction … or cause / effect. One starts to struggle with “why things happen to me” … or perhaps … “how can I make things happen to me?”

Entire religions and philosophies are designed to deal with this understanding we each have with Life. The religions and philosophies are just a “way” to understand the sweeping principle … action and reaction … something is set in motion by focused intent … physical, emotional, or mental … and there will be a reaction.

It’s not difficult to understand the confusion of karma … people “get away with” all sorts of adventurous actions … and in watching this … it is rather senseless to accept that there is any “reaction” or “effect” at all … because we do not see it during the present incarnation … and we are told to take it all on faith that this balances out anywhere or anytime … now … or later.

If someone lies, cheats, steals, murders … we like to see them “pay” … now. If one does not believe in reincarnation … the entire design is flawed. To “prove” such a thing as reincarnation takes a very long time … and it is easily dismissed. The various religions tell us about reincarnation … often couched in vague words … and it is often when one begins to get heavily involved in dreamwork and lucid dreaming that they begin to see the reality of it all.

Dream scenarios can be designed to show an individual a previous life that constructs the present life. Even at this level … it takes a long time to accept this … in terms of lifetimes. The entire principle is one that is confusing because sometimes the “reaction” is immediate … and other times it never occurs during the present lifetime.

No one ever said that understanding Life … was easy.

The “carry-over” from previous lives can be incredibly extensive. It can go back hundreds of lifetimes … not just years. As stated before … this is often the explanation of “bad things happening to good people.”

The best way “around” karma is to just understand … you are responsible for EVERY-thing you put forth … you image forth … you push forth … you direct forth … EVERY-thing … physical, mental, emotional. In these Lower Psychic / Metaphysical Worlds … everything is cause and effect. There’s no way around it … even to an authentic Master. So … do anything you wish … while knowing you will balance or resolve it all … somewhere … sometime.

Unless and until one is very advanced on the path … the “reaction” or “effect” does not often come in the present lifetime. Certainly … there are “sections” that happen … but they are most likely from previous lives … and the fact that they may coincide with something an individual does in this lifetime is just happenstance. Eventually … as one begins to walk the “ending” steps on the path … reactions can happen during the present lifetime … and this clearly helps in firming up the acceptance of this principle of life within the Lower Psychic / Metaphysical Worlds.

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Old 05-03-2024, 01:55 PM
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3-5-24 …

A more than useable approach to many a mental dilemma is necessary to broach and compete with the either / or demand of the human state of consciousness. Many of us … for the longest time … and again … I’m speaking of lifetimes … not years … or even centuries … demand that real conflict is resolved by choosing either *this* stance or *that* … black or white … good or bad … right or wrong … etc forever. Lately a thread floated through the board concerning “Truth vs Concept.”

Really?

Happily the thread mostly resolved along the lines I am going to put forth in this post.

In the Lower Psychic / Metaphysical Worlds … there will *always* be an either / or. That’s the design of the entire Lower Psychic / Metaphysical Worlds division. Conflict forces us to choose … and from our decisions we learn their effects … or reactions. Another recent thread asked “good vs bad karma.” The cornerstone of any conflict we have along these lines is … how is it going to “affect” me? Yes … ‘karma’ is a popular word but it is simply a word given to a foundational precept of these worlds … action / reaction … cause / effect … balance / disharmony … and so on.

LIFE … both levels … Divine Spirit or Spirit of the Lower Psychic / Metaphysical Worlds … LIFE is *not* here to find out what and how we like to live our individual lives and then change IT-self accordingly. It is *we* that are her to learn to live more harmoniously with LIFE. WE … find the balance. WE … find the harmony … and adjust … or change … or adapt … by or choices being more successful or beneficial … or not.

There is *always* a for or against … anyone can hold to a particular stance and then promote from the opposite … just to play the devil’s advocate. Many do this. It is a form of entertainment or power or status for them. In the world today … from politician to priest … from worker to CEO … people flip sides on a whim. Many choices hold through the current lifetime and will be continued in the next. We don’t know “why” we fell a certain way … we just “do.”

So … to gain a balance with perplexing and conflicting viewpoints … try to understand that both have their uses … both for and against are valid stances depending on the specifics … but a higher viewpoint … and one that slowly leads to detachment … that elusive non-attachment of release and liberty … is right in-between. Right in the middle. Both work … so stay there and let both work when a specific is needed.

The neutral force … the middle choice … the middle path … is more than viable. It allows the “use” of material gatherings while not tipping over into excess … or lack of. It allows for the perception of “ I “ as an individual … mental or otherwise … without clenching into controlling demands. Things do not have to resolve into “good or bad” … but whether they are successful or not … according to individual tastes … and ore often than not … no matter the choice … there is another “level” of that same choice that will soon be faced … LIFE always having the process of expansion … or growth … and there is always something more to learn … somewhere.

The neutral force is very real. It is not a sign of “weakness” because you cannot make a choice. That will be used against you forever … even within yourself. Make a choice … even if it is of a rather detached direction … then see how it works within the specifics of the situation. Learn contentment … which is of a “neutral” stance … and slow the draw of being pulled from excess to scarcity.

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Old 05-03-2024, 02:45 PM
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That’s the design of the entire Lower Psychic / Metaphysical Worlds division. Conflict forces us to choose …
Interestingly I think this is correct knowing this is how it is set up. We are here to observe as well. We are the center. It is interesting regarding conflict. Outside conflicts or inside conflicts. I am aware of outside conflicts. We (say) cannot observe the inside but can observe the outside. Imo we observe through experience not the eyes but we have to use them. We are here to learn through the physical.
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Old 05-03-2024, 04:05 PM
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lemex …

We may choose to not “observe” our inner conflicts … but we certainly live them.

On we go.

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Old 06-03-2024, 01:42 PM
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3-6-24 …

A fabulous post as of late by forum member FairyCrystal shows a real turning point in ones advancement on the path. More often than not we all have whisperings along these lines but when the “ah-ha” moment comes … our perception and viewpoint tends to broaden rapidly.

So many of us have the habit of reading for our information … or listening … visual or audible … we want out answers or our directions in print if possible … something concrete … something along the lines of a clear declaration. This continues right on into “channeling” and having “guides” that inwardly tell us what to do and when to do it. This will continue for a long as we can live within the offered parameters.

As the path advances … that happens … less and less.

LIFE is not here to make things that easily discernible. LIFE often whispers … nudges … hints at. LIFE tries to urge you to “Look here” … or “Try this.” LIFE tries to tech you not to rely on verbal / auditory usage … but on watching and then following where IT is trying to lead you.

This is when things begin to “just happen.” If you tried to sit down and plan something out … more often than not you could not have devised as successful a procedure as LIFE led you into. This teaches you to *listen* … and not with physical ears … and often … not with your physical brain / habits / patterns.

Time and again we can try to use practices and procedures and conventionally-accepted actions only to find that they just don’t seem to work … at least not as expected. LIFE wishes you to broaden … to expand … to allow … often … the unconventional … even if it is “unconventional” for YoU only.

Open your eyes … broaden your senses … and watch. All the “noise” of our mental and emotional patterns and habits often get in the way of all that can be seen around us.

Yes … there are man times that you have to begin to actually test out a nudge. See how it works. Follow through and go with it. “God helps those that help themselves” … so it is often unwise to just lay back and demand … “SHOW me” … and wait it out.

You can wait a long time. There is much to be learned in following the guidance of LIFE.

Without a doubt … walking the path within the human state of consciousness … often HURTS. It is a tough go. There is little that is easy … and if you as an individual are living a lifetime where things come relatively effortlessly and quickly … please enjoy. Since there is balance in EVERY-thing … enjoy the Now … if you find yourself within such a lifetime … or even a shorter period of time. Periods of recovery and rest are very real.

Try to ask … and then watch and listen. Try not to keep asking if what is shown to you is not to your liking. There may be a reason for that. You will never know the success or benefit of it unless you take a few steps into the adventurous experiment.

So much of what LIFE tries to show us involves baby steps … one small step at a time … building on the first and on into the second … and onward still. Growth involves that. Learning involves that. Advancement involves replacing the old for the new … often slowly … incrementally … one foot in front of the other. Falling back a step or two just gives rise to improving on what was previously tried. Round Two is often better … more successful.

Much of this has only to do with your decision to experiment this way or that. Few others need to know. Telling others of what you wish to try or do often leads to more difficulties than is necessary. This is all between you … and LIFE.

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Old 07-03-2024, 01:51 PM
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3-7-24 …

In a very round-about way … this ties into the thread of “working towards our ascension” … and more broadly … into the entire understanding of how we design our own perspective within which we choose to live our lifetimes.

We live many, many lifetimes in ignorance … and by that I mean … we do not know any better. We have yet to gather the necessary information … and so we are unable to deal with many of the experiences we find ourselves put into for learning purposes.

The more injurious side to this is when we “know better” but we choose to be willfully ignorant … we make a choice not to apply the supposed information or technique or method to advance our previous stance into a somewhat more beneficial one. We choose … not to learn. This … is willful ignorance.

It is the endless battle between “I can’t … “ … verses … “I won’t.”

Of course … we bury the admission to ourselves that “I won’t learn” or “I won’t grow” by designing our own necessary escape clauses, excuses, and dance-steps. This goes way beyond simple skepticism … which is a beneficial questioning of new possibilities to make sure that the benefit outweighs the unfavorable. Skepticism is often viewed as necessary and healthy. Strong defiance … is not.

True learning is not as easy as many believe. Learning “old information” again with “new, alluring words” is not learning … it is enhancing that which we already know … people lie to “resonate” with what they already know … and this brings on a development of courage and confidence … again … which is necessary to develop. It is all a matter of degree.

We can bask in what we already know … which too … is necessary to a degree … until we build walls around our stances to avoid development … which often takes risk … and courage … and strength … all of which *will* be developed by each individual … one step at a time.

It might be helpful to understand that the principle of not being able to see beyond ones current state of consciousness is more than a valid principle. People just cannot “see” beyond themselves. This does not come easily. It ties into the old statement of “not seeing the forest because of the trees” … buried so deeply in our state of consciousness that we cannot see beyond it because of what is in front of us now.

We use our habits and patterns to react to everything we experience … physically, emotionally, and mentally. We have learned to prevail … to survive … and we count on that which has helped us do that. There is nothing mysterious about it.

So … how to we “venture” forward?

Once again … inner work prevails. We can keep on being put into various scenarios and be faced with “new vs old” ways of dealing with it … or … we can go in and make an inner movie from the experience of concern … and test out various new ways to approach / deal with it. “If I continue to not even ask why a person did or said so-and-so and my snap-judgement will prevail and I feel more than justified in doing so” … verses … “Maybe I should have asked first so I could understand the ‘two sides to every coin’ approach.”

The former just digs in the heels of resistance and misjudgment. The latter promotes fairness, patience, awareness of self, consideration, respect … and more.

This example is very generic … then lesson being … try not to be *so* unyielding in what you think, do, or say that you never look anymore … that you never question your habits and patterns. If you build to the more broad … you will see the more broad.

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Old 08-03-2024, 01:47 PM
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3-8-24 …

In keeping with yesterday’s post … it can be said that greater Truth … into and to whatever level pertains to the position of the individual at the moment … greater Truth will not “show itself” to those that are not worthy. In other words … one must “earn” the right to uncover more truthful information and approaches by increasing degrees of sincerity, strength to confront, enthusiasm to explore and experiment, and a boldness to challenge where one is at the moment.

It would seem to be common knowledge that if one wishes to find out something … you must go to where that “something” is. Yes … you can just gather supplies and make a campsite at the crossroads and just wait for greater Truth to come drifting along … and you can do this for a very long time … meaning lifetimes … especially if the new area is rather confusing and alarming. Learning to take risk … is not genetic. There is no drug or herb or substance that will simplify risk-taking. Yes … one can dive into the various narcotic and alcoholic abuses that numb the emotions and leads to erratic approaches and unnecessary risks.

The use of drugs and concoctions have been used forever. One does not learn “greater Truth through these approaches … but admittedly … one can experience greater thrills and pleasures. All of us take this approach … for many lifetimes. It matters little to LIFE … for IT will just wait us out. Certainly … if we find a “better” way to approach Life is to numb ourselves with the available varieties of substances … we will keep that going for as long as we can … clearly a necessary part of everyone’s path.

Just consider … what do we put ourselves through to eventually get to the “point” on the path where we sincerely wish to “sort it all out” and “know the Greater Truth.” We constantly sabotage ourselves … getting in our own way … misinterpreting … misunderstanding … all while patting ourselves on the back for being as insightful as we are.

Again … LIFE will wait us out.

The five senses cannot know Greater Truth. To find Greater Truth … we must go beyond ourselves … and this involves levels most of us do not acknowledge … let alone understand or view from. The sense of “sight” … beyond the physical eyes … is often more important than most people believe. Again … to find Greater Truth … we must prepare ourselves to go to where IT lives … and then take the journey. Until then … we continue where we are … making mystery our of mystery out of anything and everything we confront. Mystery … keeps us confused and “lost.”

Small elements or grains of truth are contained within the various philosophies and religions … the multiple gods verses the singular God … the various rites and rituals devised by human kind … moving into the spiritual hierarchies and the lower verses the higher worlds … the Lower Psychic / Metaphysical Worlds verses the Pure God Worlds … who the true authentic Masters are verses those that have “mastered” the Lower Psychic / Metaphysical Worlds religions and philosophies … the make of the individual living of Life via the body, emotions, mind, and of Soul Itself … discernment … smoothing and balancing the potholes and obstructions of our own device … and eventually working into the areas of the “Over-view” … seeing from the heights … beyond the psychic attributes … not dismissing them but acknowledging them and using them as initially intended … and the ever-continuing learning of how to live in harmony and balance with LIFE IT-self … and on into true God-Realization.

Most people have a sense of “where they are” if they choose to objectively look. It’s often a very good idea to have a sense of “where you are” before you consider “where to do from here.”

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Old 11-03-2024, 12:46 PM
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3-11-24 …

It would be enlightening to all to consider …

How many times and ways have we all been misled and misguided by the societies and cultures we have lived within … more out of ignorance than intentionally so. Ponder just this simple but extremely vital and revealing factor still alive and well today …

Most medical sciences give very little … if any … validity to Soul Itself. Perhaps they might give some vague reference to It. And so … in trying to explain the experience of just night dreams … those that the majority of us have during nightly sleep or during naps and such … science(s) have come up with all kinds of “explanations” as to just what “dreams” are … just random brain firings … perhaps gathered from “memories” whether the dream actually reflects that or not … maybe “just a series of images” … stories our minds just happen to put together … emotional memories that help us cope with everyday life … and on and on and on.

Many religions rarely give any references to Soul Itself or to dreams.

The philosophies like to ponder the “kinds” of dreams … what they indicate … why we would make up movies in our minds … plugging alot into sleep paralysis and “enhanced mind wandering.”

How many on the forum board would readily accept that dreams are the adventures and experiences Soul Itself has on the other dimensions or planes as the body rests … at night or otherwise. The *vast* majority of dreams happen on the astral plane … as wide and varied as one can conjure up and imagine … and more. Want to know what the astral plane looks and feels like? Take a look at your dreams.

The astral dreams are dreams of emotion … since the astral plane is the “site” of our emotional reactions to our physical experience. When we “feel” our emotions … they are “felt” via the astral body or the emotional body and then “locally” felt via the physical body. The astral body is *so* close to the physical body and this should not be a surprise to most of us. It is a major factor in why the emotions rule us so strongly.

It is often said that it is more difficult to contend with the emotions than to the physical body on its own … in considering separating the two. Yes … the physical senses feel what they do … and our “emotions” interpret every feature … every facet … all from both the pattern we prefer … and from an instinctive preference to help the physical body survive in the first place.

Soul Itself has no need to “rest” as does the physical body. It has journeyed out of the boy from the very first incarnation to the physical realms … whether we are aware of it or not.

But look what we are led to believe as “explanations” for all of this … and how long does it take for us to “learn beyond” these teachings … how do we go about discovering it in the first place … and then what do we do with the considerations once we begin to accept that validity of it all.

This is just *one* of the very minor misdirections we have to contend with … and the massive misguidance as a result … from a myriad of sciences, religions, philosophies, educations, and so on. We do *not* like to question … let alone let go of … any of these promotions given to us for millennia.

The path takes a very long time indeed.

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