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Old 19-05-2021, 04:36 PM
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Very nice gas pump guest. Connected with her right away as she reminded me of my passed Mother.
So I checked out her vid. where she connects to Spirit realm.
The technique is familiar, but with my own peculiars.
Connect Across the Veil in 7 Steps (20 mins. or so.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkD5gDeUeAc

This pic. represents a basic part of my practice.
The sphere is not limited it goes out to everywhere.

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Old 19-05-2021, 08:29 PM
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She is very pleasant and normal.
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The technique is familiar, but with my own peculiars.
Yep, yep, yep. Once one becomes aware of one’s energy-field the consequent steps become similar and recognizable.

Like the alpha state from where one can shift to any other state needed …

Opening up & surrendering & expanding (If I do it consciously, I’ll use the ‘7 Sacred Dimensions’).

It is just, that in a shamanic culture, the identification is already in the energy-field-soul-part, that is the Self, so we know who we are ….

& Yep, yep, yep I did think of your Sphere picture in regards to the Circle of Fire … the more Light that sphere emits, the higher one’s vibration … with the subsequent access to those Higher Realms …

I have never seen “Spirit Guides” though. (Only Siberian ancestors around me and gran, through which there is access to their Collective Subconscious. Like when they - after the devastating Soviet environmental destruction collectively intended “Shamanic Revival” – that message came loud and clear, with ‘evidence’ where it was coming from).

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Old 19-05-2021, 11:21 PM
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I have never seen "Angels" either. Those just do not exist in ‘our’ Collective Subconscious.

But there is an imprint, an energy-signature in the Collective-Energy-Field and it is The Horse (0:44 – 1:40)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFTNWNgP-gk

I love it, I laugh at the presentation and it runs chills down my spine, because it is real/true for ‘me/us’.

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Old 20-05-2021, 09:44 PM
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Reflecting back on my previous post.
“Tulpar, the White Winged Horse” is a Deity for a few Siberian groups, and similarly if one had ever been empowered by Tibetan ‘Vajrayogini’, it would leave a deep ‘energy signature’ or ‘imprint’ into one’s subconscious energy field from one life to next.

Tibetan Buddhism in Mongolian:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgB1UjMHJNw

Though with Tulpar, there is no ceremony – it is the Eagle/Thunderbird, which bestows it.
Here Tulpar, Hiimori, Lungta gets mixed:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Yki37924aw

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So, the question arises what is true and real?

I assume “Angels” are true and real manifestations of the collective Christian subconscious.
“Angels” can come to announce births, deaths or appear during the times of great turmoil to bring hope, calm, solace to the soul (I assume – I’m not Christian).

For the Salish Coast injuns, it is the Owl that comes to announce the passing of a tribal member (?)

For my uncle (from paternal side) it was a Raven/Crow that came to announce his passing, which was 'a true awakening to the interconnectedness of everything'.
For my uncle from maternal side, it was a Gecko brought on vision (even down to the exact time).
My aunty would get a “Green Bird” visitation every time a member of the family would pass on …
When my late Aboriginal partner’s grandfather was being buried, his Totem was there in a physical form at & for the grave-side ceremony. Afterwards when people followed that animal’s tracks – they were there, but then they suddenly disappeared like into a thin air.

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I guess my point here is that so called “spiritual” energy can manifest in whatever form according to a person’s “dreaming” or collective subconscious patterning (belief system).

It seems to be a “white” or Western thinking, that when one becomes disillusioned by Christianity, one can ’just like that’ drop it and adopt a belief-system of another …

Not that easy.

Though of course one can always absorb new influences, which do shape our energy-fields.

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Old 21-05-2021, 06:17 AM
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I stopped your Tibetan Buddhism in Mongolian vid. I was not willing to have a
program placed in my subconscious.(At this time)

I do have a good subconscious stimulating song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVR1dX8KOjw


Now I will listen to this vid. and see what that Mongolian Buddhist gentleman has to say about the subconscious.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiZE...?v=JiZEZjFac64
I just get leery when someone wants to install something on or in me.
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Old 21-05-2021, 01:02 PM
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Now I will listen to this vid. and see what that Mongolian Buddhist gentleman has to say about the subconscious.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiZE...?v=JiZEZjFac64
Haha … if one wasn’t clear about the role of the subconscious before – one certainly became more confused about it after that interview …. plus, translation also left something to be desired … LOL.

Followed by this LOL!:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Yki37924aw

And now let’s install this program in your subconscious – LOL-LOL-LOL:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgB1UjMHJNw

Oh, how funny!

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Old 21-05-2021, 02:06 PM
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Haha … if one wasn’t clear about the role of the subconscious before – one certainly became more confused about it after that interview …. plus, translation also left something to be desired … LOL.

Followed by this LOL!:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Yki37924aw

And now let’s install this program in your subconscious – LOL-LOL-LOL:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgB1UjMHJNw

Oh, how funny!

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Wait, I don't want a Guru running around my subconscious.LOL
Buddhism language is hard for me to understand.
Let alone a not so good interpretation.LOL
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Old 21-05-2021, 02:17 PM
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Okay,subconscious is related to Love says Guru Gotopa.
Also it is deliberately attached to Love.
Also Buddha shines Love in.

I can relate to the above statements.

P.S. Actually I found this vid.(Interview about human subconscious, Guru Gotopa) quite enjoyable.
They did not try to give me a program with a subconscious Guru.LOL

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Old 21-05-2021, 04:52 PM
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Alright I got the program.
Subconscious program did not have a Guru installed in my subconscious.
It was just a meditation exercise. I already do something similar.
Though I did not fully dissolve my Karma.I kinda like keeping some of it around.
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Old 22-05-2021, 10:41 AM
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It was just a meditation exercise.
Yep
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I already do something similar.
Me too.


And I do get the Circle of Fire … but no matter how interesting Tibetan Buddhism is and how helpful the symbolism and how this Deity was offered as a practice from the true heart and with the lineage blessings by my Lama Friend - no red human form dancer with 3 eyes nodding at me will spontaneously arise from my subconscious, nor as a manifested reflection of a realization or insight, because I’ve already got an innately instilled ‘program’.

A drum shaped like a ‘Cosmic Egg’ with red and white markings:
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...Uoz5Q&usqp=CAU

https://www.booktopia.com.au/covers/...windhorses.jpg

And of course – the Horse:
https://i.ibb.co/M77fBkF/Windhorse.jpg

Riding the Windhorse with Eagle flying above is when all your planets line up – and if I understand the Amerind expression right, it feels like when your ancestors are and “your medicine is with you”:
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/0d/eb...f7c67a16a8.jpg

This ‘indigenous program’ is valuable to keep imo. so I wouldn’t ultimately wish to change it for another, other culture’s spirituality …

(sorry about the many links).

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