killing wildlife

[knightofalbion]

Originally Posted by TeeHee

There are natural remedies to a point, for preventing the deer from eating ornamental shrubs. The hunting store and probably other places online sell urine of natural predators that deter the deer. We have a deer problem, I never thought about shooting one, because I don't like the meat and the spray does work. If a hunter, however, during season wanted to rid some of these rodents on giant legs, I wouldn't have a problem with it.

Safari parks here (in England) sell lion excrement. Sealed in a container to keep it fresh.
Apparently if you have trouble with deer you deposit a lump of it in your garden, the deer smell it - and leave ...very quickly!

Lo! Primrose, the solution for your neighbours!

(Thanks TeeHee)

[knightofalbion]

Originally Posted by Chrysaetos

Ah you have equated your opinion with law. It doesn't change anything though.

I do not believe in a ''spiritual law'' but playing the game along, there would be no law against killing and violence, because creatures survive and reproduce thanks to violence and killing.
Feudal barons.. eh. We agree on not being a sacred guardians.
We can't tell, we need more details.
No there is no world in which ''all'' can thrive. You sure you have an interest in animals and nature?

No spiritual Law? You can deny it if 'you' want, but when it casts a shadow on your door, you'll believe it soon enough.

Man is more than a beast.

Man was created "to walk wth the angels", not to hurt and kill....

Originally Posted by knightofalbion

No spiritual Law? You can deny it if 'you' want, but when it casts a shadow on your door, you'll believe it soon enough.

Man is more than a beast.

Man was created "to walk wth the angels", not to hurt and kill....

Chrysaetos did not say, "There are no spiritual laws." Because if Chry had said that, that would have been an absolute statement. By not believing, choice was exercised. God and His laws do not exist because someone believes in them, even without belief, God exists and His laws exists for they are absolutes. The highway of moral relativism is littered in casualties. That's why we have an absolute medium dividing us from incoming traffic!

What is man that you are mindful of him, the son of man that you care for him? You made him a little lower than the heavenly beings and crowned him with glory and honor. You made him ruler over the works of your hands; you put everything under his feet: all flocks and herds, and the beasts of the field....

[Chrysaetos]

Originally Posted by knightofalbion

No spiritual Law? You can deny it if 'you' want, but when it casts a shadow on your door, you'll believe it soon enough.

Man is more than a beast.

Man was created "to walk wth the angels", not to hurt and kill....

Everyone exists at the cost of something else, including you and all the vegetarians out there.

[LPC]

Originally Posted by Chrysaetos

Everyone exists at the cost of something else, including you and all the vegetarians out there.

Chrysaetos, I think that this last comment shows your true colours: an intense dislike of vegetarians and vegans. I wanted to understand why you have this attitude, but your profile gave no clues. I therefore looked through your past posts, trying to find something positive, loving, caring somewhere. I did not find one post expressing sympathy for someone, concern for their welfare, love for others.

Do you really care about animals? If so, where is the evidence? Or do you just like to argue with those who do love them?

This section of the forum used to a haven of love and compassion, and now it has become argumentative and negative. This makes me profoundly sad.

Since you seem to have little genuine interest in animals, why not spend more time on the "Strong Opinions and Discussions" section?

Why Chrysaetos actually comes to a forum that's called 'Spiritual Forums' is a bit of a mystery to me as I haven't seen one spiritually inspired post from him especially when it comes to animals and even more so when Chrysaetos means 'eagle'.

Originally Posted by knightofalbion

1) I didn't know that. Presumably that was why the white man labelled 'you' sub-human savages, and had no qualms about slaughtering you, in the same way you have no qualms about killing animals.
Luckily the white man has learnt better since.

2) Pride in history and heritage is one thing, but that still doesn't make it (the warfare, killing, scalping etc.) right.

3) I was referring to the great spirit teachers (i.e. White Eagle, Silver Birch and so forth)

4) Those who were so inclined and had the wealth to do so kept horses and engaged in fox-hunting and stag-hunting. Those who didn't engaged in hare coursing, badger-baiting, **** fighting and the like. Either way they did it for 'sport' and through the cruelty in their hearts.
The majority of people didn't engage in such things, which are all banned now.

5) "Tradition doesn't make it right". Any act of cruelty, violence and brutality is wrong. Always has been wrong and always will be wrong. It is the perception of the perpetrator that changes. We learn, we grow, we evolve spiritually, we view things differently.

Subhuman Savage ? LOL! Do you guys still toss that old racial epitaph around ?

White Eagle and Silver Birch, were they vegetarians ? Hey Knight, what tribes are those two spiritual teacher's from ? Are these some of the Native American 'shamans' that are channeled by people across the big waters, as I've never heard any of my really spiritual Indian friends speak of them.

We ? Some of us choose to remain in the same spiritual sense we've known long before Europeans brought their crowing ***** to fight or fry here upon this continent. I am as content in my way of life as much as you claim to be in yours.

Killing and scalping ? No Knight, such acts of war are against the law here in the states, unless an Indian joins the US military, puts on soldier's clothing and is sent to the Middle East to fight other brown people for the white man.
The Pawnee and Absaroka use to be pretty good at that.

[Chrysaetos]

Originally Posted by LPC

Chrysaetos, I think that this last comment shows your true colours: an intense dislike of vegetarians and vegans. I wanted to understand why you have this attitude, but your profile gave no clues.

This is your perception. I have nothing against vegetarianism, in fact I regularly meet them and there's no problem. Why? Because they aren't absolutist about it and claim to be innocent saints. It's the ones that treat it as a religion that get on my nerves.

Originally Posted by LPC

I therefore looked through your past posts, trying to find something positive, loving, caring somewhere. I did not find one post expressing sympathy for someone, concern for their welfare, love for others.

That's not a very loving thing to say, and also a very selective thing to say.

Originally Posted by LPC

Do you really care about animals? If so, where is the evidence? Or do you just like to argue with those who do love them? Since you seem to have little genuine interest in animals, why not spend more time on the "Strong Opinions and Discussions" section?

I do. Do I need to be a vegetarian to care about animals?

Your inability to reason and resort to personal attacks is more telling of you than of me. Let's try to discuss the matter at hand.

Let's get back to animal culling and hunting..

[Chrysaetos]

Originally Posted by glenos

Why Chrysaetos actually comes to a forum that's called 'Spiritual Forums' is a bit of a mystery to me as I haven't seen one spiritually inspired post from him especially when it comes to animals and even more so when Chrysaetos means 'eagle'.

3th time you don't discuss the topic but are just here to score points.

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