Can reincarnation be real

[kris]

I think well-developed intuition can be seen as remote viewing. This is not directly related to reincarnation in my view.

[kris]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPi-w7FpPSs

Connection between reincarnation and remote viewing..

In remote viewing, astral body moves out of physical body, but connected to it via something like wormhole (ref:david wilcock), and photons are moved along that pipe to
the pineal gland, which has crystal like structures etc..

reincarnation: astral body leaves physical body,.. this part is the same,.. but doesn't come back, and something else happens.

This doesn't mean I believe either of these.

I believe remote viewing, say by 10 percent,
and reincarnation, by almost zero percent.
I don't like reincarnation (maybe this is why I'm a good person, I don't want to come back), but I may not like remote viewing either but it might be real, and may have scientific explanation as said above.

[bobjob]

Originally Posted by skyman

I believe remote viewing, say by 10 percent,
and reincarnation, by almost zero percent. I don't like reincarnation (maybe this is why I'm a good person, I don't want to come back),

Do you think, then, by declaring you do not believe in the principle of multiple lives - reincarnation - it will mean the notion won't apply to you if it's authentic? interesting......

What would happen if you half-believed it?

[Miss Hepburn]

Skyman:This doesn't mean I believe either of these.
I believe remote viewing, say by 10 percent,
and reincarnation, by almost zero percent.

If someone doesn't believe in reincarnation, fine...why bring it up?
I don't believe in little green men on Mars, ok I admit it ...why would I want to start a thread on them, then?
If there is a reason, I'm open to hearing it.
Seems there is an intention, a 'put down' to those that do know they have lived others lives.

[bobjob]

Some - it seems - don't care for the idea they'll return at some future point to live another life in-the-body.

I think it's the thought they find difficult to cope with so they go on to say they don't believe the notion as if affirming it will somehow prevent it. I suspect there's more to it than just that issue though.

My guess is that these individuals hate the thought of returning to this world so much that they also won't/don't consider others' accounts. They probably won't/don't read the collected teachings of spirit individuals widely considered authoritative and knowledgeable.

In my opinion such individuals simply don't WANT to believe in reincarnation rather than they don't actually believe it's kosher.

Originally Posted by bobjob

Do you think, then, by declaring you do not believe in the principle of multiple lives - reincarnation - it will mean the notion won't apply to you if it's authentic? interesting......

What would happen if you half-believed it?

I don't believe reincarantion, but still evaluating evidences, ..my belief rate is not supposed to remain fixed, it can go up and down, but ideally it must be zero or one eventually. It can be partly investigated scienfically, and I would be suprised if it was not done,.. and I'm wondering what is known, the problem is: "they" are hiding the truth from us.

[bobjob]

Originally Posted by skyman

I don't believe reincarantion, but still evaluating evidences, ..my belief rate is not supposed to remain fixed, it can go up and down, but ideally it must be zero or one eventually. It can be partly investigated scienfically, and I would be suprised if it was not done,.. and I'm wondering what is known, the problem is: "they" are hiding the truth from us.

quote: "My guess is that these individuals hate the thought of returning to this world so much that they also won't/don't consider others' accounts. They probably won't/don't read the collected teachings of spirit individuals widely considered authoritative and knowledgeable."

Are you one of the above individuals? An individual who is always looking for examples that "they" - whoever they may be - are hiding something from everyone else?

Do you think one day you might consider what some here are already saying and what spirit teachers have taught the world generally?

We don't always reincarnate on Earth, there are many other places.Also,we may nor reincarnate at all.Also,do we keep the sense of I?

[bobjob]

I'm not seeking to influence anyone in their stance towards reincarnation - my position is you are welcome to believe whatever you wish. But for those undecided and hoping to become less uncertain perhaps my thoughts will appeal to you.

I started out 'in the spooks' three and a half decades ago. After my 'awakening' I was so invigorated I devoured every scrap of information I could find and listened to whoever I could and experienced anything I got the chance to experience. Some of what I found I quickly discarded, other details I was unsure about and the rest appealed to my reason.

Over time I refined the latter two categories and some ideas from the second category moved into the third one. The notion of reincarnation had alost always belonged in the third category and the idea that some individuals could remember their previous incarnations eventually moved from the second category - unsure - to the third one of comfortable persuasion. That happened by 'listening' and - I think - learning from what I 'heard'.

One issue that may hamper seekers is the idea they're forced in some way to undertake further incarnations. The second is trying to understand how the process works. A third may be they think reincarnation means they're the same person coming back maybe to live another miserable life. Each of those points deserves to be addressed separately and I'm sure there will be a host of other misunderstandings that also need addressing.

Just getting one's head around the basics is hard enough and in my view dealing with the above three is a good start to one's journey of discovery.