TF Idea and Possible Mental Disorder - is it possible??

If the supposed delusion is that a psychic connection is causing telepathic communication, shared dreams, spirit messages etc.; the moment the other person verifies that it is a shared experience, you can obviously rule out delusion!

When it comes to soul-to-soul contact, there is no such thing as a shared delusion. There is only contact.

[twinkle77]

I am wondering how would we explain syncs and seeing similar signs to each other. i.e 11:11, other number sequences, seeing their name everywhere. I mean, i go out daily and at the beginning i never used to see as many signs as i do now, they hit me every second. I see his name and my name everywhere i go, now no-one can tell me i am imagining this or making it up or that i am crazy/mental. Our names are not common and i see our names literally, sumtimes almost literally. One after another..on billboards, on tv adverts..and i am not consciously looking out for them. When i happen to glance over any where, i see a sign. This has never happened to me before. Could i have a mental disorder? Maybe, maybe not..i don't know!

Originally Posted by DulcePoetica

I have been staying away from this thread because it is such a sensitive subject, and I am sure that some people on this message board actually could benefit from this sort of self questioning.

But since you said you want an honest discussion, I'll be honest with you. I find it fascinating that even with total awareness that your situation is a mutual, two-way connection Nada, you are still looking for psychiatric explanations. Please consider that by looking for a diagnosis, you are still just looking for a way out. I second what was said earlier in the thread that it is a little bit insulting to people suffering legitimate mental illness, which is difficult enough.

Also, and I think this is why I felt a need to jump in, is that the struggle to get past the fear of mental illness is a HUGE part of this process for those of us actually dealing with true soul connections. Most of us, I assume, have already ruled out the list you put forward, as have you, I'm sure. Suggesting that there could be another, unknown mental illness causing this is a pretty desperate attempt to hang on to the idea that you do not, ultimately, need to surrender to the power of your soul's energy. You can keep fighting it if you want to, but why do you feel you need to take all of us down with you by getting us to admit we might all be delusional? I do not endorse the idea that unrelenting love, deep empathy, telepathy and other spiritual gifts are really symptoms of a secret, unknown mentall illness. Seriously?

If what you experience in life, what you see and perceive are just ordinary, explainable things; you would not be receiving the gift of a spiritual awakening. It has to defy your understanding or your consciousness will not expand. So you have a choice: let go of the 'limits of probability' that your mind is trying to force on this situation, or remain stuck within the parameters of understanding you have always relied on. Though it sounds to me, at this point, you will need to medicate or find some other means of dissociation to continue denying your new reality, so I guess it makes sense you are looking for a "treatable" diagnosis.

If I sound annoyed, it is because on this subject, I am. You have the good fortune and luxury of casually contemplating your sanity vs. the legitimacy of the experience precisely because your soul connection has been generous enough to attempt contact and tell you how he feels. I surely hope you have told him that you are struggling with making sense of it too. Or have you gone all this time letting him think that you are categorically uninterested and you simply think he his mentally disturbed?

Please consider the toll that living 25 years with these kinds of feelings, dreams, signs, telepathy, etc. while the other person denies it would take on a man. You don't have to embrace it as a delightful gift and walk into the sunset. I know you think you can be happy without him, but that is not the same as you and he being victims of hallucinations. Please show some respect and compassion, and realize that when connected at such a deep level with another person- your rigid rejection of the truth has harrowing consequences on the other's psyche. Have you ever tried anything as simple as working together with him to understand what is happening between you?

I like your postings and I am very glad that you decide to join in.
Yes, maybe I am still looking for a way out.
On the contrary, I am not trying bring all of us down.

This kind of open communication can actually bring healing and help each other, especially those who are just finding out about TF theory and they are just reading our postings.

As I have been reading other postings since I joined, it is clear that many have been struggling with this bizzare connection.
Hence the reason, why most of us found this site.

It is good to know that many of you have considered your TF connection as a mental disorder at some point during your journey.

So, it is not about whether we ever consider TF as an illusion or mental tricks.
But the real questions should be:
How did you come to the conclusion that it is not an illusion?
Why are you so sure that it is not an illusion or mental tricks?

I don't worry about my "TF"'s psyche since he is a big boy and he can take care of his own emotional well-being. He is very resourceful and intelligent.
Although I sometimes think that he is KOOKOO (see this, I am not using the word CRAZY anymore. BTW, there is nothing wrong with calling ourselves CRAZY. You can call me CRAZY anytime. ).
Since I am married and have been with a same man for last 6 +years, it probably is not a good idea to discuss our connection in a deep level with him directly. Although now I am considering our connection as a TF (just since I joined this site), I am afraid what that discussion may lead to.

[twinkle77]

Maybe one day i will live to tell the tale between me and tf and verification between us? I.e signs, dreams, telepathy, them constantly on your mind? Cos if i am mental then so is he too! haha

Maybe we should have a thread 'experiencing EXACTLY the same things i.e 11:11, signs etc between ourselves and sc/tf'?

Would this prove the tf phenomenon?

Originally Posted by sound

I understood SG simply clarified that she meant when people are not medicated they are not aware of their condition, and for the most part i agree. However, in saying that, even though most people may not know what condition they have, many people do know they are disturbed, hence the reason they seek professional advice and receive a diagnosis, albeit it, more often than not, with support and encouragement from friends and family ...

As for SQ"s comment re: my footnote ...I chose not to respond to that in my last post because it is based on her opinion and it isn't my place to dispute it ... but since we have revisited it I will express that I certainly wouldn't choose to tell someone they are a reflection of a sick society because they are experiencing a mental disorder ... I predict that could be extremely detrimental for most ...

Sound works in the field -- she is the expert here. Not me. I defer to her. I completely respect how Sound is handling this thread, including her responses to me. Very professional.

I was only speaking from my personal experience as caregiver to mentally ill people that I love, not as a professional. For privacy, I do not even want to indicate what relation they are to me. I have also lost too many loved ones to mental illness (suicides). For me, this is an emotional hot button issue.

Sound, I want you to know that I would never, ever say to those I care for what I said about reflection of a sick society. I am very well aware that med noncompliance is a big issue, and such a statement from me would give them reason to not take their meds. I'm all for medication, as I've seen the difference it makes.

[Usako]

Originally Posted by Nada

About labeling,
We are already labeling "this bizzare connection/thought/idea as "Twin Flames".
But what if TF is just a different spectrum of an unidentified mental disorder and it has nothing to do with spiritual connection of any kind?
Or is this our minds' work?? - Law of attraction and etc.
May be you are thinking about him/her because he/she is thinking about you?
Are you 100% sure that your connection really is NOT in your head??

A true TF connection/experience will never be anything like a mental illness, now if it's created in the person's head fueled by a pre-existing condition, well that only depends on the person and is completely independent of the TF "theory".

It can be in your head, but trying not to repeat myself, well that is conditoned by each person's mind.

Originally Posted by tealtwist

I suppose it is possible. I guess if someones stalking and doing things to a person they think is a tf. And this person they think is a tf is saying no I don't know you. Like most thriller movies... um fatal attraction comes to mind.

I look at mine as A crush I have had for 4 years. with a strong connection.

Yes, this is a very possible consequence. Very honest view of the other side of TF connection.

Originally Posted by Nada

I don't worry about my "TF"'s psyche since he is a big boy and he can take care of his own emotional well-being.

Well, yes, we are each responsible for our own well being. But I also see that there is a profound intellectual, emotional and spiritual responsibility that comes with sharing consciousness. Whether I chose it or not doesn't matter; I hold his heart in my hands. If I deny his existence, I might as well be digging into his beating heart with my fingernails.

Again, I agree it is his responsibility to deal with his reaction to any of my negativity that creeps in, as it is 100% my job to clear myself of whatever poison I feel when he decides he hates having me around all the time. But isn't it more loving to be attentive to the delicate nature of our connection, even if we are not prepared to be in an earthly relationship? I feel good knowing that I am always careful not to be too reckless with another man's consciousness.

For me, I spent years learning the difference between thoughts and intuition. At the very least, I was going to know where these experiences were being generated. Up until recently, I always held on to the possibility that I was creating the whole thing just because I wanted it. Clever how my mind allowed me to discount the obvious fact that this is not anything I would actually want! But there you have it.

But being responsible enough to allow room for the possibility I was making it up wasn't enough for me. If I was going to be truly scientific about it, I had to give equal room to the possibility that it was all real. And so I spent most of the last several years moving forward within an "I don't know what this is, but it is something" mentality.

I investigate within myself relentlessly. I continue to find plenty of dysfunction, obsessive thought patterns, insecurities, unmet needs, etc. I address those things one by one as I discover them. And with each phase of clearing out of old habits and errant thinking, here is this connection, louder, clearer and stronger. Seems I have put myself in a situation where every effort to debunk only proves it truer.

I can't say how many confirmations I have dismissed over the years, but I do like to think if he told me about his feelings from the onset, I would have had an easier time accepting the truth. But maybe not, as it seems not to have convinced you of anything. That is the nature of expanding consciousness I guess. Even when the evidence is indisputable, our minds will not allow us to believe it until we are ready.

The beauty of this process is that for me, each opportunity for confirmation became more undeniable than the last. I have kept a dated and time-stamped journal of all the psi phenomena associated with this. Hilariously, for the last few months, I keep "accidentally" finding out about specifics about his life through photographs, friends we have in common, and things of that nature.

During one of our telepathic visits, for some reason, I picked up on his surroundings and 7 other details strongly enough to write them in my journal. Weeks later, I saw some photographs taken that day. Are you ready for this? 7 photographs, each of them confirming a different piece of the specific things I saw. Don't worry, instead of viewing it as scientific evidence, I rejected it as superior guesswork on my part, even though some of those details were bizarrely useless information, like the pattern of the china on the plate he was eating from. ;)

I finally got a confirmation earlier this year of something that I felt crossed over the plausibility barrier. I'd rather not say what it was, because who knows if he reads these forums. Suffice it to say, it was the proverbial final straw. I can't say how liberating it has been for me to finally let go of the resistance. And now, strictly telepathically, we are working together without the heavy interference of intellectual resistance.

It's a whole new world, I highly recommend it.

[Usako]

You want to know how tormenting a mental illness can be? Well look at this video I made:

http://youtu.be/7LPiu2tg1n0

You have no idea how many times I watched that scene over and over again when it came out, since I could relate so much to it back then.

Leave it to the music industry, pop and (poor) Britney Spears to make an upbeat video out of mental illness and (great) trauma!

Watch while you can, I am sure soon I'll be getting a "copyright infringement notice" (again) from Youtube and will have to delete it.

By the way that scene could have been so much better, damn Akerlund!

Edit: P.S. Nada you are avoiding my messages, aren't ya? Oh well I just want to help.

Also- sort of on a side topic... One look at the upsurge in themes of consciousness, parallel realities, dreams, telepathy and spirituality in the entertainment business should tell you that awareness of psychic development in "ordinary people" is on the rise everywhere. It's not just so-called twin flames.