Am I think only one who thinks Lucifer is real?

Originally Posted by Gracey

yes that is how lucifer uses gods energy and we do the same thing we each other sometimes. and one i pray we wont.

I can think of a few individuals who have done that in the past, and committed horrible crimes, a good example would be Hitler himself. He was blessed with the power to be able to speak to the people and connect with the emotionally. But he abused this power that God gave him, and feed his own sinister darkness.

yep from world wide known people to the averge joe.

[BlueSky]

Originally Posted by AngelicOrin

I think it just depends of the individual who believes in the story, because I personally have a mutual respect for him, instead of fear and love.

We have a choice to believe the story or to not believe the story.

We can at least all agree that it is a story..............so really there's nothing to talk about in this regards except more stories.

@Gracy: I also can see Lucifer using those crimes done by those individuals like Hitler to feed and spread his own darkness.

@WhiteShaman: fair enough, but it was nice to see that I am not alone with my belief that Lucifer does exist. :) and get other people's POV...

[Internal Queries]

Originally Posted by AngelicOrin

There is always an enemy, you can not be friends with everyone, as there is always one who you will not see eye to eye with.

i don't have any enemies. i don't need to be friends with everyone and just because i don't see eye to eye with someOne or even dislike them doesn't mean i consider them to be my enemy.

i guess i just don't view my spirituality as a territory to be fought over or a resource that can be stolen or misused. Lucifer and "God" don't fight over my soul because my soul isn't a commodity.

as for insanely cruel people? **shrug** we humans are over engineered primates and we're under immense pressures to evolve and adapt to an extremely complex environment so we're apt to look for simple solutions to perceived problems. monsters like Hitler provide those seemingly simple solutions by tapping into the most base instincts still residing in our primate DNA.

Originally Posted by Internal Queries

i guess i just don't view my spirituality as a territory to be fought over or a resource that can be stolen or misused. Lucifer and "God" don't fight over my soul because my soul isn't a commodity.

I honestly do not think Lucifer a being in a fiery realm waiting to claim your soul. :)

yeah he spreads his own darkness and so do we and it is up to us not to become a product of our environment. if we want good stuff, it is up to us individually to do it by good thoughts and good actions, using gods energy via our chakras...just my views at this time.

[BlueSky]

Originally Posted by AngelicOrin

@Gracy: I also can see Lucifer using those crimes done by those individuals like Hitler to feed and spread his own darkness.

@WhiteShaman: fair enough, but it was nice to see that I am not alone with my belief that Lucifer does exist. :) and get other people's POV...

Yes I understand...........I guess I was just trying to express my POV about believing in beliefs.........

[Internal Queries]

Originally Posted by AngelicOrin

I can think of a few individuals who have done that in the past, and committed horrible crimes, a good example would be Hitler himself. He was blessed with the power to be able to speak to the people and connect with the emotionally. But he abused this power that God gave him, and feed his own sinister darkness.

did "God" know before Hitler was created and given power what Hitler would be and do with that power? who created Hitler or allowed him to develope the way he did?

Originally Posted by WhiteSharman

Yes I understand...........I guess I was just trying to express my POV about believing in beliefs.........

thats okay :)

Originally Posted by Internal Queries

did "God" know before Hitler was created and given power what Hitler would be and do with that power? who created Hitler or allowed him to develope the way he did?

Hitler's power to speak was natural, can be seen as a God-given gift, God may have given it to Hitler and allowed him to use to it to his ability. But instead of using it for the greater good, he used it for evil. I can not talk for God, also why do you use quote marks when you say God? Do you believe in the Creator or not?

Originally Posted by Gracey

yeah he spreads his own darkness and so do we and it is up to us not to become a product of our environment. if we want good stuff, it is up to us individually to do it by good thoughts and good actions, using gods energy via our chakras...just my views at this time.

I agree, this is so interesting. I am glad to see different and similar ideas on this topic. :)

anyway, it is very late here in Australia - midnight! time for me to sleep. Goodnight~