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06-12-2022, 08:31 AM
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Master
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I personally see thoughts as being either words or pictures that form in my mind and which are often accompanied by or give rise to feelings which in turn ' may' become actions. That's why in Buddhism 'Right Thoughts' are extremely important.
'All we are is the result of what we have thought, it is founded on our thoughts, it is made up of our thoughts. If a man speaks or acts with a pure thought, happiness follows him like a shadow that never leaves him.' The Buddha.
We also hurt ourselves with our thoughts not just others when they become 'Unwholesome ' actions...
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06-12-2022, 04:55 PM
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Master
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When I mentioned black magic it was because I was trying to figure out what the person above meant by saying “other peoples thoughts can affect us”.
I, straight away thought, no they can’t. So trying to give you the benefit of the doubt I came up with black magic and felt yes that can do some damage.
I still feel other peoples thoughts can’t affect us, but their ACTIONS from those thoughts can.
Just my opinion.
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06-12-2022, 05:31 PM
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Master
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Redchic12
I still feel other peoples thoughts can’t affect us, but their ACTIONS from those thoughts can.
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So if a group of people send healing thoughts to a sick person then these thoughts will have no effect?
Or if we send loving thoughts to another person then again these thoughts have no effect?
Thoughts are more than just passing creations of the mind. Thoughts are energy and we are all energetically connected. When we add emotional energy to a thought-form (whether positive or negative) then that energy has to go somewhere.
Peace
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06-12-2022, 06:21 PM
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Pathfinder
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Quote:
Originally Posted by iamthat
Thoughts are more than just passing creations of the mind. Thoughts are energy and we are all energetically connected. When we add emotional energy to a thought-form (whether positive or negative) then that energy has to go somewhere.
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Agreed. Thoughts have actual tangible existence outside of the body, and all the cosmos is aware of them. And the denser they are, the more impactful they become
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06-12-2022, 06:24 PM
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Master
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Quote:
Originally Posted by iamthat
Or if we send loving thoughts to another person then again these thoughts have no effect?
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They certainly do effect others. I'm 100% sure there are others on here who like myself can actually ' feel' the thoughts of others without any verbal experiences.....
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06-12-2022, 06:41 PM
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There are thoughts you keep in your head.
Then, there are thoughts to say out loud.
Longer lasting are the thoughts you put in writing!
For me the last 2 can effect people ...whether praise or mean.
There is also focused, deliberate thoughts like towards a person's health;
like, thoughts directed to God or angels and imagining the person healed.
Imo, they're way diff than random, passing thoughts, like, I hope that speeder gets a ticket.
Now if you put emotion and power behind that thought...well, then you have a diff thing going on.
My take anyway.
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Prepare yourself for the coming astral journey of death by daily riding in the balloon of God-perception.
Through delusion you are perceiving yourself as a bundle of flesh and bones, which at best is a nest of troubles.
Meditate unceasingly, that you may quickly behold yourself as the Infinite Essence, free from every form of misery. ~Paramahansa's Guru's Guru.
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06-12-2022, 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn
Imo, they're way diff than random, passing thoughts, like, I hope that speeder gets a ticket.
Now if you put emotion and power behind that thought...well, then you have a diff thing going on.
My take anyway.
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In reality if thoughts have power we must concede that it works 2 ways. It is our ego that convinces us that our thoughts are correct…..this same dynamic is in play for those that beg to differ with us. Their thoughts can run counter to ours. Does this become a war of attrition ? Perhaps actions rather than thoughts is the final arbiter……
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06-12-2022, 08:35 PM
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Master
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Molearner
Perhaps actions rather than thoughts is the final arbiter……
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Definitely and actions start with a thought, the mental ends with the physical.
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06-12-2022, 08:40 PM
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Master
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Absolutely Molearner The analyses of competing thoughts spot on.
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07-12-2022, 05:26 AM
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Master
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Yep you are right Iamthat about sending healing and prayer thru thought. I often do that.
I was talking more about the GENERAL thoughts we have about people eg I cant stand this person, I wish he would shut up and I wish this person would leave us. stuff like that.
Continual focused thoughts of course can have affect, that’s why I mentioned black magic. Perhaps I should have mentioned healing as well.
Hope that clarity’s where I was coming from.
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