Does atheism discourage values?

Some religious people are nice, some are nasty. Same with Atheists.

All the aforementioned virtues are innate to all..........I don't need guidance to be nice, I just do it......like eating...It just happens.

In my experience, the religious people are much quicker to condemn others since they view the world through the lens of what they've been taught, rather than using their own fresh perspective.
I have also met many a kind religious person.........

In the end, it doesn't seem to matter whether you follow a book or not.
Religious people will continue to feel that the rest are in trouble, and Atheists will continue to assert that the holy people are followers....

Same debate.......never an answer

Originally Posted by Mazulu

Nice avatar.

'You will know them by there actions' comes to mind, Christians, Muslims, or whatever we choose to be or not to be is not important, its the way we behave and treat others thats important.

[Arcturus]

Originally Posted by Ecthalion

Exactly. They are not atheists - they kill because of their religion.

communism is not religion but many have been killed in its name. same with democracies of course. so atheists may kill because of their political beliefs just like religious nuts might kill because of their religious beliefs. both can be as equally potentially harmfull.

I finally understand how science and religion fit together, and I could teach it to you, except that you might go insane or I might go insane. It is far from meaningless or random as the atheists say; in fact, it is more like infinite government, only it's personal and you can never die.

Originally Posted by vecta3

so atheists may kill because of their political beliefs .

That's correct; as may religious people.
An atheist will never kill for their religious beliefs though, which was my point. If you read early posts I have already made my thoughts clear.

[Arcturus]

i don't get the point. the implication seems to be that being atheist makes someone a safer being. an atheist who kills for beliefs other than religious can be more dangerous than one who doesn't; outwardly and relatively

Atheists don't kill for their values because there is nothing valuable about atheism.

Originally Posted by vecta3

i don't get the point. the implication seems to be that being atheist makes someone a safer being. an atheist who kills for beliefs other than religious can be more dangerous than one who doesn't; outwardly and relatively

An atheist may kill for their political beliefs, though most wouldn't.
A religious person may kill for their political beliefs and their religious beliefs, though again, most wouldn't.

My point is not that atheists are 'safer' than religious folk - they are, in my opinion the same.
The point is that atheists are no worse than religious people, which is the question in hand. I do not think atheists are 'better,' neither do I think they are worse.

[Arcturus]

Originally Posted by Ecthalion

An atheist may kill for their political beliefs, though most wouldn't.
A religious person may kill for their political beliefs and their religious beliefs, though again, most wouldn't.

My point is not that atheists are 'safer' than religious folk - they are, in my opinion the same.
The point is that atheists are no worse than religious people, which is the question in hand. I do not think atheists are 'better,' neither do I think they are worse.

everyone kills with words; its all the same in my book. beliefs and idealogies separate regardless. just because some don't act out by killing doesn't make them safer.

atheists are no worse or better than religious folk; i can go with that. begs the question why aren't atheists "safer" as humans?

Originally Posted by vecta3

begs the question why aren't atheists "safer" as humans?

Because we're all the same.