how we are born and is it a choice to turn dark?

[Xan]

Originally Posted by MMM

so if you're born 'bad' then you're not responsible for your actions?

There's no getting out of being responsible for your actions, no matter how you're born or what happens later.

Karma doesn't mean punishment, but it's the simply the law of cause and effect... you reap what you sow.

Taking responsibility for yourself means making better choices.


Xan

Originally Posted by Dragonfly1

Try telling that to the person who is slowly being tortured to death by a serial killer......or a little african girl being raped by a group of grown men then hacked to death......or any other horrific act upon human or animal?.....of if it were you in any of these horrendous situations, would you be still of the same opinion?
I would call them evil....evil.....evil...

It's more that what they are doing is 'evil.'

Originally Posted by vulkus

Why is light love? You know sinister actually means left handed don't you? It has nothing to do with 'evil'. Or whatever predjudiced view point you wish to put on it.

The Light is often used as a metaphor for higher dimensional energies, including, but not limited to love. JOY & empathy are among others.

I'm not sure why seeing the light as love is prejudiced.

Originally Posted by Aquarian

You can't avoid karmic punishment, which will probably be worse than anything the state will meter out.

Karma isn't about punishment or rewards, but seeing multiple sides of an issue, finding balance.

Originally Posted by Xan

There's no getting out of being responsible for your actions, no matter how you're born or what happens later.

Karma doesn't mean punishment, but it's the simply the law of cause and effect... you reap what you sow.

Taking responsibility for yourself means making better choices. ...

Can't be said enough.

Good-bad & ‘dark souled’ are terms worth examining. These are polarized thinking. As if there is a line on which one side is good & on the other side is bad. This duality thinking is promoted by organized religion which benefits from these polarized views of things. Much of organized religion has promoted the disinformation that we are born inherently flawed (sinners). Very problematic POV.

We can benefit from looking at energy in a more nuanced manner as a matter of frequency instead or good-bad. Or useful or not productive. When we look at things as only fitting into the positions of good-bad or dark-light, this limits us severely in many ways. It gives a moral connotation of good-bad to things where this doesn’t apply. It discards the infinite positions between the polarized positions. It promotes an Either-Or view instead of the more nuanced, considered view that all factors may be active in varying degrees.

Originally Posted by Sangress

I think that good and bad and light souled and dark souled are all black and white opinions of the charicteristics other people have. Unfortunately the world isnt all black and white, so each person is bound to have a differing opinion of whoever they are considering to be dark/light/good/bad.
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Useful view that a more nuanced view than the polarized options of dark-light or good-bad provides a deeper look at things.

Originally Posted by mattie

Karma isn't about punishment or rewards, but seeing multiple sides of an issue, finding balance.

Just so you know, I only take responses seriously if...

a) they're at least vaguely comprehensible and
b) they don't claim to state truth... without indicating how this 'truth' was arrived at.

[Gem]

People have 2 sides, and they're required, and I am one who opened a space where from above was light and below was deep darkness, so I was between these things an also in and of them.

The question is, what's dark about evil? Is there such a thing or do we create with our judgement, and is it our perspective that's dark? So many people talking about balance, but what's the wider view? All this good in the world, so many positive thoughts but nobody wants to think about the negative. That's contradictory with balance, is it not? If there is a God that is the embodiment of all that's good, doesn't it stand to reason there's an embodiment of all that's evil? Few people want to go there, they judge it as evil and there it stops, like a self-imposed barrier. No talk of how so-called evil acts can change someone's Life completely for the good. It seems there is little exploration of that and people intentionally keep themselves in the dark.

I believe that Spirit has a very different perspective on evil and good, that it's not a judgement but an experience. If we did not choose what experiences we would have when we become incarnate, does that mean our climb up that Spiritual ladder is a matter of chance due to random acts? Our Spirituality then becomes a product of the chaos. If one act of evil turns someone deeply Spiritual, is that an entirely random act or was it planned? Was it so evil after all? I like to think there are reasons for everything that happens to us, including what we would term as evil. If not, then Spirituality is a lottery.