Advice needed.

Originally Posted by S-word

No, my friend, I walk the straight and narrow path that leads to God. Unlike others...

It's amazing what years of religious inundation can do...

[Morpheus]

Theophilus:

If we can pay for our own sins then why did Jesus have to die at all? Couldn't the people who lived before him have paid for their own sins?

God isn't inside time like we are. When Jesus died he already knew every sin that would ever be committed so Jesus was able to pay for all of them.

Well, God is both, Theo. True? Both within, and without, and apart from.

What many keep ignoring, including Christians, also, is that Humanity itself, in the construct of, "Space/Time", is a fallen, and "sinful" sitution.
The "construct" is an altered situation, "fallen" and changed from something else, which is the greater Truth, and reality.
Though, not apparent, while here.

"The Matrix" applies, and it is why, "all have sinned and fallen short of God's glory."
Christ, however, as prophesied, paid the price, being one with the Father,
"Emmanuel", God with us.

Now, who can see the truth in this?
http://www.angelsghosts.com/angels_what_are_they.html <~ Angels, who and what are they?

"Traditional religion would have you believe that this passage means we will be only similar to the
angels, but that’s not what Jesus was revealing.


Jesus was revealing that we ARE the angels (other
translations, especially of Luke 20:36, use the words “equal to the angels,” as well) who have lost
our first estate…meaning right now, we do not know who we really are. We are fallen angels.

That is why he was saying we will be like the angels (who are not fallen); Jesus was trying to help us comprehend this amazing truth.
We are the fallen angels who have lost their way and will be
restored."

We can see in this that regarding the Fall, that the fall of the angelic in scripture, and the fall of humanity in Adam and Eve, are two perspectives and viewpoint about one situation, and, involving the elimination of the "space/time construct.

And this we see puts a whole new dimension on the parable of the Good Shepherd, as well.

The above also aligns with the illustration of,
"The Matrix".

[Seawolf]

Originally Posted by Mind's Eye

It's amazing what years of religious inundation can do...

Well at least he's being honest.

There are different approaches to spirituality and I think there are truths in all of them. All have downsides as well.

New age seems to be free of all the over-emphasized guilt and fear in Christianity,, but because of that reaction it's somewhat unbalanced, in that it tends to avoid responsibility. I think a person has to be balanced themselves in order to not lean towards one or the other. I'm not balanced, but I want to be.

[Morpheus]

This comes from a self proclaimed atheist. You can look him up.

"If a man's actions are not guided by thoughtful conclusions, then they are guided by inconsiderate impulse, unbalanced appetite, caprice, or the circumstances of the moment.
To cultivate unhindered, unreflective external activity is to foster enslavement, for it leaves the person at the mercy of appetite, sense, and circumstance." - John Dewey

We see how this is manifest in such news as -
www.dreamindemon.com

[Seawolf]

Originally Posted by Morpheus

This comes from a self proclaimed atheist. You can look him up.

"If a man's actions are not guided by thoughtful conclusions, then they are guided by inconsiderate impulse, unbalanced appetite, caprice, or the circumstances of the moment.
To cultivate unhindered, unreflective external activity is to foster enslavement, for it leaves the person at the mercy of appetite, sense, and circumstance." - John Dewey

We see how this is manifest in such news as -
www.dreamindemon.com

Being conscientious of our actions really has nothing to do with religions or spiritual beliefs imo, it has to do with the maturity of the person. Christianity can make a person worse or better, it just depends on the person. The same goes for any other belief system such as Atheism or whatever. Believing a certain faith or spirituality doesn't make a person act better.

[Morpheus]

Originally Posted by Seawolf

Being conscientious of our actions really has nothing to do with religions or spiritual beliefs imo, it has to do with the maturity of the person. Christianity can make a person worse or better, it just depends on the person. The same goes for any other belief system such as Atheism or whatever. Believing a certain faith or spirituality doesn't make a person act better.

Religious, maybe...
Excuse me....spirituality is about maturity, with respect to a greater reality and Truth, existant, from what is normally apparent.

The best advice comes from God. I believe it is available to everyone who honestly wants it and I believe it involves surrender through trusting God enough to willingly surrender to his loving will for our lives.

[Seawolf]

Originally Posted by Morpheus

Religious, maybe...
Excuse me....spirituality is about maturity, with respect to a greater reality and Truth, existant, from what is normally apparent.

Christianity IS a religion. Every religious person thinks there religion is the Truth, not like all the other 'religions'. LOL It feels good to think you have the truth and are better than others, but you're just the same as everyone else.

[Morpheus]

Seawolf:

"but you're just the same as everyone else"

And, Seawolf, that is exactly what th Bible states, also. Additionally, "all have sinned and fallen short of the Glory of God."

We are all in the same boat, you see. No exceptions.

This website about the fall, and the true identity which is non apparent, of all in, the "world", is accurate...
We are more and other than what is apparent, in the world.


From, The Angel'Ghosts website:
http://www.angelsghosts.com/angels_what_are_they.html

Which, btw, also aligns with the modern illustration of, "The Matrix".

And, concerning your citing of various religions, or faiths... all agree at their essential fundamental teachings.

[Seawolf]

Originally Posted by Morpheus

Seawolf:


And, Seawolf, that is exactly what th Bible states, also. Additionally, "all have sinned and fallen short of the Glory of God."

We are all in the same boat, you see. No exceptions.

This website about the fall, and the true identity which is non apparent, of all in, the "world", is accurate...
We are more and other than what is apparent, in the world.


From, The Angel'Ghosts website:
http://www.angelsghosts.com/angels_what_are_they.html

Which, btw, also aligns with the modern illustration of, "The Matrix".

And, concerning your citing of various religions, or faiths... all agree at their essential fundamental teachings.

It's not hard to see the world has problems. People have different ways of dealing with it, that doesn't mean any one of them is exclusively right.