Kundalini & Chakras

I wish I could bottle the Living liquid Light with the essence of Love.

I would ask everyone I meet to take a sip.It will be soft like the coo of the dove.

Just one drop living Love on the tongue

Creations Love song has now been sung

[running]

Originally Posted by ImthatIm

I wish I could bottle the Living liquid Light with the essence of Love.

I would ask everyone I meet to take a sip.It will be soft like the coo of the dove.

Just one drop living Love on the tongue

Creations Love song has now been sung

if your open to it. on some level your a bartender dishing out drinks around the clock. lol

Originally Posted by running

if your open to it. on some level your a bartender dishing out drinks around the clock. lol

Ah yes, The privilege to share the Love.

[JosephineB]

Originally Posted by ImthatIm

I wish I could bottle the Living liquid Light with the essence of Love.

I would ask everyone I meet to take a sip.It will be soft like the coo of the dove.

Just one drop living Love on the tongue

Creations Love song has now been sung

Beautiful.

[Shivani Devi]

Originally Posted by Unseeking Seeker

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In the experiential aspect of meditation the journey of each individual is unique although the general tendency is of attempting to validate the unfoldings as felt by us within with those specific texts which somewhat correspond to our own findings, while conveniently ignoring clues offered by others.

On this forum itself we have scores of people who have had different types of spiritual awakenings and specifically cognition of kundalini movement & chakras corresponding to different locations within the body.

Perhaps some of us may like to share their own direct findings (not theory but actually experienced ‘reality’) related to kundalini and chakras during meditation or lucid dreaming or Bhakti dissolved states.

The idea is to simply share the experience and the type of consciousness upliftment if any both during and after the profound spiritual engagement which may be anything from a Oneness experience in/beyond form to sensory or vibrational or anything else at all.

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Hi there.

I have shared my experiences with Kundalini many times on here and I really don't feel like I am up to going through the whole descriptive process yet again.

Suffice to say, you would have really enjoyed being on SF about two years ago - around the time I was shaken out of doing intense bhakti-trataka on an image of Lord Shiva when a volcano decided to explode within me.

Let's see now...there was a member called Dryad...A member called barrynu (I really miss him)...there was running (who is still around), there was myself...A couple of others and we spoke on here in great length and detail about "all things Shakti"....those were the days.

Now, it rarely gets mentioned...and I see that as actually being a "good thing" due to the reverence for this most sacred and holy of experiences.

From my teachings, beliefs, understanding and experience...which is nothing like the New Age Movement would have me believe...what I have felt, intuitively (and spiritually), corresponds more directly to the Hatha Yoga Pradipika and the Tantric Upanishads...like the Yoga Kundali Upanishad:

https://www.google.com/search?q=yoga...obile&ie=UTF-8

I first became aware of Kundalini in 1981 through the Theosophical Society... especially by reading a book called "The Serpent Power" by Sir John Woodroffe (Arthur Avalon)...but after having read that, it was his second book; "Shakta and Shakti" or the Mahanirvana Tantra which put it all into perspective for me...and like Noone, I also studied all the works of Pundit Gopi Krishna.

That was all during my late teens/early adulthood.

For the next 10 years, I immersed myself in kriya Yoga (not the kind that Swami Yogananda speaks about) as it applies to Hatha Yoga...I also spent about 4 hours a day doing yoga and meditation...but it was Lord Shiva who stole my heart...and it was to be through Lord Shiva's Grace that I would experience the ascent of Shakti herself (Kundalini) some 30 years later...about three years after I resumed doing pranayama and Dharana after about a 20 year hiatus of "burning off Karma" which needed to happen first.

I then realised why Hinduism has four "rites of passage" called varnashramas.

At first...and for many months after the initial awakening, I was lost in a sea of bliss... eventually, that settled down into a form of serene detachment..yet, I was also aware of some irreparable damage that had been done to my autonomic nervous system leading to weakness and seizures...As well as some kind of emotionally flat, ambivalent state...once one has tasted the Soma... everything else just tastes bland and unsatisfying by comparison..I had just entered the "Dark Night of the Soul"...and it is here that I pretty much remain...for now.

I spend most of my time on YouTube now, watching videos by Craig Holliday, Igor Kufayev, Stan Grof and others...As well as trying to still feel the love that I know I still have in my heart for Lord Shiva...it is as though He needs to surprise me with his Darshan...because He isn't like a trained dog who will come whenever I call Him anymore.

For the past three days, I have been chanting endless malas of the Mahamrityunjaya Mantra because Nataraja is trampling upon the "demon of epilepsy" and I would just like all of my neurological symptoms to conveniently JAO! Vamoose! so that I may get on with having some semblance of a life.

Occasionally I will still get the deep bliss states, but I can count such times on the fingers of one hand..and they rarely last for any longer than a few days.. meanwhile, my spinal cord feels like an electro-whip, my extremities throb and pulsate..there is pressure in my forehead at the location of my "third eye" and migraines are also common.

I live in the hope that things can only get better...or I die...One or the other.

[Unseeking Seeker]

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Thanks Shivani!

I was actually wondering when you’d join the party!

The void you speak of ... the dark, living, breathing, vibrant void of nothingness and yet completeness ... in my experiential view ... is called as such because of conditioning confined to senses and that too the external polarity of senses. There is an internal polarity. All chakras too have polarities but that’s another matter.

Finally, there is through the veil, a soft yet luminous spiritual light ... a shining living light of Loving Absoluteness. I’m not labelling it ...

The key thing is this as related to what you say or for that matter merging in-form consciousness with formless Oneness awareness by Kundalini or any other way the Divine chooses as optimal, is that it’s something like falling in love with Love. Meaning, Divine grace is needed to bless the union.

While we may stand corrected by others who may like to share their view on this, your connection or my connection or anyone’s connection with Universal consciousness in any manner as projected always is ... if we are One we are never separate ... so the anxiety to consciously connect ... the anxiety itself is the blockade. A self created blockade, which we may choose to just exit ... just like that ... here & now.

The only denial is self-denial.

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[Shivani Devi]

Originally Posted by Unseeking Seeker

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Thanks Shivani!

I was actually wondering when you’d join the party!

The void you speak of ... the dark, living, breathing, vibrant void of nothingness and yet completeness ... in my experiential view ... is called as such because of conditioning confined to senses and that too the external polarity of senses. There is an internal polarity. All chakras too have polarities but that’s another matter.

Finally, there is through the veil, a soft yet luminous spiritual light ... a shining living light of Loving Absoluteness. I’m not labelling it ...

The key thing is this as related to what you say or for that matter merging in-form consciousness with formless Oneness awareness by Kundalini or any other way the Divine chooses as optimal, is that it’s something like falling in love with Love. Meaning, Divine grace is needed to bless the union.

While we may stand corrected by others who may like to share their view on this, your connection or my connection or anyone’s connection with Universal consciousness in any manner as projected always is ... if we are One we are never separate ... so the anxiety to consciously connect ... the anxiety itself is the blockade. A self created blockade, which we may choose to just exit ... just like that ... here & now.

The only denial is self-denial.

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You are very welcome.

It is my very love for the "formless" (arupa-rupa) which stops me from merging with the "formless".

...it is the plight of every bhakta.

Even Ramakrishna preferred to "taste the sugar" and not "be the sugar".

Even Lord Hanuman refused to receive Enlightenment from Lord Rama.

Sometimes the merging happens, but I always know that two lovers can become one and yet still remain as "two lovers".

My problem is...this Kundalini energy within me isn't being channeled into anything constructive or productive...I simply do not know how to do that...As if "I" am really 'doing' or 'not doing' anything anyway...but even so, the energy has nowhere to go, but circling round...and around...and around...destroying all my nerves in the process.

I have tried to direct it out of the crown of my head (Saharasrara Chakra) but it will not go any further than my Third Eye (Ajna Chakra)...it is stuck there. The Rudra Granthi still blocks its passage and the only way for me to break the Rudra Granthi is to accept that I AM the very thing that I LOVE...and even with all of the vishistadvaita philosophy...All the Acintya Bhedabheda Tattwa, I still cannot reconcile this.

I also do "ground myself" often...which provides very limited relief and respite..but it is only a band aid measure.

The only thing I can do...As others have suggested to me, is to bring all of the energies into my heart space (Anahata) and hope that the same Grace that put me in this predicament can also help me find a way out of it.

[Unseeking Seeker]

Originally Posted by Shivani Devi

You are very welcome.

It is my very love for the "formless" (arupa-rupa) which stops me from merging with the "formless".

...it is the plight of every bhakta.

Even Ramakrishna preferred to "taste the sugar" and not "be the sugar".

Even Lord Hanuman refused to receive Enlightenment from Lord Rama.

Sometimes the merging happens, but I always know that two lovers can become one and yet still remain as "two lovers".

My problem is...this Kundalini energy within me isn't being channeled into anything constructive or productive...I simply do not know how to do that...As if "I" am really 'doing' or 'not doing' anything anyway...but even so, the energy has nowhere to go, but circling round...and around...and around...destroying all my nerves in the process.

I have tried to direct it out of the crown of my head (Saharasrara Chakra) but it will not go any further than my Third Eye (Ajna Chakra)...it is stuck there. The Rudra Granthi still blocks its passage and the only way for me to break the Rudra Granthi is to accept that I AM the very thing that I LOVE...and even with all of the vishistadvaita philosophy...All the Acintya Bhedabheda Tattwa, I still cannot reconcile this.

I also do "ground myself" often...which provides very limited relief and respite..but it is only a band aid measure.

The only thing I can do...As others have suggested to me, is to bring all of the energies into my heart space (Anahata) and hope that the same Grace that put me in this predicament can also help me find a way out of it.

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What’s the remedy then?

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[Shivani Devi]

Originally Posted by Unseeking Seeker

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What’s the remedy then?

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I have some ideas..after thinking a lot...

Direct it out of my hands and become an energy healer.
At the moment, it goes out of my hands only when it wants to...I don't seem to have much conscious control over that either.

Give it all back to Shiva...laying it at His Lotus Feet with a "thanks, but no thanks"...I am building up the strength in my body to undergo the Somvrat Katha (16 Monday nirjal fasting...fasting without water for 16 Mondays).

I have been also looking into behavioural therapies such as Acceptance Commitment Therapy and Dialectical Behavioural Therapy...even EFT or "tapping" to clear away subconscious energy blockages..also, stuff like Acupuncture, Qi Gong and Tai Chi may help shift the stubborn energies or settle them down..or release in some way...at the moment, I am studying how to make "Psi Balls" or "Chi Balls"..

It seems that the ancient Chinese have better ideas about what to do with all of this excess/surplus energy than the ancient Indians ever did..

Taking up a martial art is also a good outlet for it...and THANK YOU for facilitating the awareness of what I need to do now....Kung Fu!

Bless you.

[AngelRain]

Originally Posted by Shivani Devi

You are very welcome.

It is my very love for the "formless" (arupa-rupa) which stops me from merging with the "formless".

...it is the plight of every bhakta.

Even Ramakrishna preferred to "taste the sugar" and not "be the sugar".

Even Lord Hanuman refused to receive Enlightenment from Lord Rama.

Sometimes the merging happens, but I always know that two lovers can become one and yet still remain as "two lovers".

My problem is...this Kundalini energy within me isn't being channeled into anything constructive or productive...I simply do not know how to do that...As if "I" am really 'doing' or 'not doing' anything anyway...but even so, the energy has nowhere to go, but circling round...and around...and around...destroying all my nerves in the process.

I have tried to direct it out of the crown of my head (Saharasrara Chakra) but it will not go any further than my Third Eye (Ajna Chakra)...it is stuck there. The Rudra Granthi still blocks its passage and the only way for me to break the Rudra Granthi is to accept that I AM the very thing that I LOVE...and even with all of the vishistadvaita philosophy...All the Acintya Bhedabheda Tattwa, I still cannot reconcile this.

I also do "ground myself" often...which provides very limited relief and respite..but it is only a band aid measure.

The only thing I can do...As others have suggested to me, is to bring all of the energies into my heart space (Anahata) and hope that the same Grace that put me in this predicament can also help me find a way out of it.

Let me begin by saying this is a very beautiful thread.

My prana is stuck at my third eye as well. I noticed in dreams I can feel mypineal gland pulsing like crazy. I'm still working on clearing and releasing the anger and fear I've accumulated in this life.