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Old 19-04-2011, 04:34 PM
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is there something wrong with hippies? methinks the "new age" movement owes most of it's existance to hippies.

(i fail to make the connection between hippies and porn though.)
Oh, I grew up wearing headbands and listening to Led Zeppelin, so I know a thing or two about hippies. And my comment had to do with Seven's "Anything goes!" post. Funny stuff.
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Old 19-04-2011, 04:50 PM
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Oh, I grew up wearing headbands and listening to Led Zeppelin, so I know a thing or two about hippies. And my comment had to do with Seven's "Anything goes!" post. Funny stuff.


ooooooh! LOL thanks for the clarification.
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Old 20-04-2011, 11:42 AM
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Philosophy was derived from the Greek word “philosophia” which means "love of wisdom". Since then people have coined the name "philosophy" to express views on the wisdom of various aspects of human living like politics, religious views, etc.

But the word "spirituality" is much much higher.

If you are talking about modern Western academic philosophy, you'd be right. However, ancient Hellenistic philosophy, such as Epicureanism and Stoicism, were precisely spiritual. Philosophy wasn't just a set of ideas, it was a way of life. These philosophies had spiritual exercises to help one achieve a change of perspective on life that is what we may think of today as "spiritual".

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So, what it means to be a spiritual person?

It means to be concerned about what is "internal" to one's self. It means, among other things, seeking improved vantagepoints on the deep issues of life, and reaping the benefits.


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Old 20-04-2011, 03:18 PM
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Self/Ego VERY Capable Of Spirituality

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But the word "spirituality" is much much higher. ... Spirituality is beyond Ego or personal views. ...

There has been a vast effort for 1000s of years to convince us that our self (ego/personality) isn’t adequate to comprehend spirituality or be as spiritual as what we were told were our spiritual higher ups. You know, the inherently flawed inferior human business. Major bunk. This was deliberate disinformation to try to separate us from our innate spirituality & convince us to be disempowered. Worked very nicely for quite awhile.
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Old 26-05-2011, 04:40 AM
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Philosophy was derived from the Greek word “philosophia” which means "love of wisdom". Since then people have coined the name "philosophy" to express views on the wisdom of various aspects of human living like politics, religious views, etc.

But the word "spirituality" is much much higher. Philosophy is subjective. Spirituality is beyond Ego or personal views. It is not a subject of just mankind. It encompasses the whole of life - man, women, our soul, animals, the earth, the sun, the planets and all other things that we are yet to know and the numerous ways in which each interact with the other, controlled by that Vast wholeness or GOD.

So, what it means to be a spiritual person? I would like to get views on the subject before I give my views.
nobody is spiritual everyone is spiritual.
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Old 26-05-2011, 12:47 PM
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There has been a vast effort for 1000s of years to convince us that our self (ego/personality) isn’t adequate to comprehend spirituality or be as spiritual as what we were told were our spiritual higher ups. You know, the inherently flawed inferior human business. Major bunk. This was deliberate disinformation to try to separate us from our innate spirituality & convince us to be disempowered. Worked very nicely for quite awhile.
Still working, it seems :-)

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nobody is spiritual everyone is spiritual.
Spirit on a human Journey?

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So, what it means to be a spiritual person? I would like to get views on the subject before I give my views.
It means not needing to ask the question in the first place.
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Old 28-05-2011, 04:26 AM
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Still working, it seems :-)


Spirit on a human Journey?


It means not needing to ask the question in the first place.
you can think so
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Old 28-05-2011, 12:49 PM
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Fundamentally a thing is simply what it is and has unlimited potential. You can take for example something that might be something vile and disgusting and completely unspoken of in the presence of the mass public, and it will only hold those characteristics because of that society's choice to be bound to them. Of course the only way to be free of limited beliefs and discomforts is to accept them and let them be and they'll no longer hold any position in determining the quality of your life. You can choose for a thing to be discomforting out of personal interest, fantasy...etc whatever and that's perfectly OK but to sustain rules to SUPPRESS the EXPRESSION of a thing to prohibit the possibility of discomfort to yourself or others is outrageously detrimental to the growth and wellbeing of civilization in the long run. It is not the expression that hurts you, it is YOU that hurts you, by choice, consciously or unconsciously.


i find this a particularly interesting post Seven , especially as you prefaced it with
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... and I like to use examples of what might be considered "inappropriate" by a society's/religion's doctrines.





heyokah / the sacred jester






"... as is typical of the shamanic experience, the power to heal. He also becomes a very potent teacher. This last is where the "contrariness" comes into focus, in two ways. The first is that the heyokah is teaching us about our selves. By "mirroring" all of our doubts, fears, hatreds, weaknesses, etc. he forces us to examine what we really are. For example, if you have any self-hatred (a common malady in our society) this sacred teacher will make you look at it. The second aspect of his mirroring is that, as we are taught, the heyokah heals us of our hurts. This is the most important and remarkable part of the holy man's clowning. For this wonderful shaman takes our pain and transforms it into laughter. And what can heal a human beings faster than to laugh at ourselves?"
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Old 28-05-2011, 12:53 PM
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It means not needing to ask the question in the first place.


brutal , but fair.


authentic is as authentic does.
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Old 30-05-2011, 04:50 AM
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