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22-01-2011, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Greenslade
Someone needs to experience it otherwise there is no experience. We are - I Am - the one having that experience.
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To me it's obvious that experience occurs and that it happens to me is more of an assumption, I only see a chain in memory and I call that my experience, a unique sum of events unlike any other... is that what I should assume I Am?
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22-01-2011, 10:20 AM
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i tend to think that the former is indistinguishable from the latter and vice versa.
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Ditto.....
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22-01-2011, 10:24 AM
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Ditto.....
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but only to me, it implies something. |
22-01-2011, 10:29 AM
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but only to me, it implies something.
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Excellent.
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22-01-2011, 11:48 AM
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Greetings..
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To me it's obvious that experience occurs and that it happens to me is more of an assumption, I only see a chain in memory and I call that my experience, a unique sum of events unlike any other... is that what I should assume I Am?
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If weren't conceptualizing about what 'you' think 'you' aren't, you would be experiencing what you 'know' you are.. 'you' are the unique individualized manifestation (part) of the unified collective (whole).. that which is experientially verifiable, as opposed to 'that' which is imagining it isn't what it 'is'..
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22-01-2011, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by TzuJanLi
Greetings..
If weren't conceptualizing about what 'you' think 'you' aren't, you would be experiencing what you 'know' you are.. 'you' are the unique individualized manifestation (part) of the unified collective (whole).. that which is experientially verifiable, as opposed to 'that' which is imagining it isn't what it 'is'..
Be well..
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I agree it's experientially verifiable .
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22-01-2011, 12:11 PM
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I agree it's experientially verifiable.
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'Verifiable' by whom?.. by the 'you' you imagine you aren't..
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22-01-2011, 02:31 PM
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Greetings..
'Verifiable' by whom?.. by the 'you' you imagine you aren't..
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I don't imagine I aren't, it's just a postulate where what we really are is not experientially verifiable, like a tree is experientially verifiable, but what a tree 'really is' is not.
In all the claim there is no you is wholly reliant on first inventing a false definition then claiming the definition is not true, where experience of any thing only implies you are... but there is no really a tree like there is no really a you.
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22-01-2011, 02:58 PM
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There's only things that are felt or seen, which doesn't actually imply anything, it just happens to be experience, so any drawn conclusion as to what we really are is erroneous, and answers in that regard are but deeper layers of self reflection. The self impression just happens to be experienced, but does not imply anything.
There is no truth. There is only perception. ~Gustave Flaubert
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Geez- I was just kidd'n 'round Gem.  |
22-01-2011, 03:09 PM
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Geez- I was just kidd'n 'round Gem. |
I was just sayin' and I don't see how it could actually be true, but I work on the following principle:
Even a clock that does not work is right twice a day. ~Polish Proverb
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