Problems with being in meditated state

[Xan]

Originally Posted by Darky

Hi, I have problem. when i try to have no thoughts, breath stops immidiatley, and I have to do concious breathing.. can anybody help ?

In the first place, Darky, "trying" to have no thoughts puts us into struggle within the mind. Instead, we can discover the silent space of awareness that is underneath and all around our thinking mind.

In the second place, although the breath stopping can be scary at first your body will do very well in deep meditation with little or no breathing for a while. You can trust its instinct to survive.


Xan

Originally Posted by Darky

No , I dont think it's cause of fear .. Look, I have to consciously breathe, if I do it unconsciously, the breath stops immidiatley..
And then I can be without breath,until air runs up..then i have to consciously breathe again..

Thank you, Darky

Dear Darky

It was just a suggestion you should think about for yourself. Obviously, your body breathes on its own when you sleep and you also breathe automatically when your mind is on other things. Meditation should be exactly the same. I don't know what you do when you meditate, but try to just sit for a while without thinking that you're meditating, either thinking about something specific or letting your mind wander, to let your body reach that state where it breathes while you don't think about it. Then you can start your meditation technique whatever that is, but going smoothly into it without thinking about breath.

With much love
Resonance

[Darky]

Originally Posted by Xan

In the first place, Darky, "trying" to have no thoughts puts us into struggle within the mind. Instead, we can discover the silent space of awareness that is underneath and all around our thinking mind.

In the second place, although the breath stopping can be scary at first your body will do very well in deep meditation with little or no breathing for a while. You can trust its instinct to survive.


Xan

Thank you, Xan . This helped me a lot =D

[Darky]

Originally Posted by Resonance

Dear Darky

It was just a suggestion you should think about for yourself. Obviously, your body breathes on its own when you sleep and you also breathe automatically when your mind is on other things. Meditation should be exactly the same. I don't know what you do when you meditate, but try to just sit for a while without thinking that you're meditating, either thinking about something specific or letting your mind wander, to let your body reach that state where it breathes while you don't think about it. Then you can start your meditation technique whatever that is, but going smoothly into it without thinking about breath.

With much love
Resonance

WOW, this is it ! not thinking about being meditating and how to breath!! THANK YOU!

LOVE TO YOU, bro.

Darky

[Xan]

Resonance: ... just sit for a while without thinking that you're meditating

Perfect advice. Just sit in the quietness.


Xan

Originally Posted by Darky

WOW, this is it ! not thinking about being meditating and how to breath!! THANK YOU!

LOVE TO YOU, bro.

Darky

Yay! Much love and happy meditating!

R

[spiritfirst]

Maybe you will find more success in letting the thoughts be there, but not engaging them. Just let them come to the surface and float away. If you fight them or resist any thoughts you will go into effort therefore restricting your breathing.