Was I punished for my sins?

[Renegade]

There were times they were really nice though

they'd make some jokes, and had me listen to songs like "What if God was one of us" and "The Man I Want to Be"

[Starman]

Originally Posted by Renegade

Is there anyway I can get help removing this entity, their were having a massive negative effect on my life.

Like they would talk to me non stop, tell me I was going to Hell, that I was lucky to be alive, that they were going to kick my *** etc.

and sometimes it felt like they were looking through my eyes

No entity can effect you unless you put faith in that entity; it is our beliefs which give things power.
You might want to research online how to remove an entity, etc. Look for a ritual, etc. which you could
do in your home, like burning certain types of incense, aromatherapy, taking an Epsom salt bath, etc.
can be helpful. Seeking out a counselor, mainstream or spiritual, from your church, etc. may also be helpful.
You need someone to talk to face-to-face about this; someone you trust. If you do nothing,
except for what you are doing now, it will only grow and may become worst.

[DreamKey]

Originally Posted by Renegade

Is there anyway I can get help removing this entity, their were having a massive negative effect on my life.

Like they would talk to me non stop, tell me I was going to Hell, that I was lucky to be alive, that they were going to kick my *** etc.

and sometimes it felt like they were looking through my eyes

You would need to become conscious of the hooking mechanism. Spirits can only attach (although it sound like you're dealing with cloaking) through an unhealed causal emotion or what some folks here refer to as a fragmented soul.

I am distinguishing now between a soul complex and a spirit complex. Through the loss of soul, energy from the collective unconscious cloaks your mind through vibratory attraction. Because you are relatively unconscious of 'who you appear to be' (the person in this life), your individual being is prone to manipulation and attack.

If you think of consciousness as light, and yourself as consciousness, then the body is something you are wearing. The quest to uproot causal emotion starts with consciousness. Without some primary recognition that 'you' are consciousness, and that the body is not just appearing to but animated by the light of the divine, you may expect these attacks to get worse. Removal of these energies without addressing causal energy will only leave you vulnerable to an attack from a different source.

This consciousness that illuminates the world before you isn't afraid of these entities, because it's how this light of consciousness creates darkness through the soul complex that gives rise to the collective unconsciousness that has now cloaked you. So, becoming conscious of the mechanism which causes the soul complex can then establish you more fully in light.

You mentioned a walk of shame in your other post. This would seem to be an unconscious manifestation of some experience you are ashamed of. Meaning, the human mind sometimes acts out experiences from its past in order to gain a sense of control or dominance over the unconscious self. While you could say spirits caused this present day manifestation, it is your unconsciousness which allows it.

The primary mechanism through which the soul complex initiates is a rejection of energy. This mechanism initiates unconsciously, meaning, the mind is unconscious of the mechanism that it's using. This mechanism possesses utility in dealing difficult situations, and manifests as an aversion to what you are conditioned to view as a negative experience.

By placing negative experiences and energy associated with them into the unconscious, one's personal identity becomes fragmented through a soul complex. Your present day soul complex will manifest through a present day belief structure, that compensates for the compartmentalized energy in the unconscious.

The mechanism that keeps these belief structures intact is the same mechanism which gives spirits access to your soul aura. This mechanism is an unconscious avoidance of energy, usually a feeling of unworthiness, sadness, or grief, that you have been up to this point unable to express consciously.

Because your belief structures are compensations for your unconscious (unperceived defects that aren't actually defects, you just view yourself that way because of the mechanism you initiated unconsciously), the spirits are able to 'come through the back door' of your soul aura, because the foundation on which the beliefs stand is a deficient sense of self. By taking a life approach through a compensation mechanism, the vibration you put out to the world through your ego or surface level identity is saying "I'm not good enough". And so you attract spirits that confirm and reflect your belief.

It's all just energy.

[LadyMay]

Originally Posted by Renegade

There were times they were really nice though

they'd make some jokes, and had me listen to songs like "What if God was one of us" and "The Man I Want to Be"

It's all pretend though. That's what I'm saying.

[thebeautifulsacred]

Originally Posted by Lucyan28

Please look up for a therapist, this sounds like schizophrenia, just to have the best opinion available.

From a spiritual side, guides and guardian angels are made of Love, they would never tell you to hurt yourself or others. Please look for a priest also, perhaps you experienced some kind of demon possession episode.

Please take this person's advice. I agree - this sounds like schizophrenia.

[LadyMay]

There is a fine line between the psychotic mental illnesses and demonic torment anyway. Personally, I'm not so convinced they're that different.

[DreamKey]

Originally Posted by thebeautifulsacred

Please take this person's advice. I agree - this sounds like schizophrenia.

I think there's a lot of grey area in the public domain with regard to what constitutes schizophrenia. In many ways every human in the mind identified state is implicitly coming from a state of inner division. Schizo literally means 'split' while phrenia references mentation. A split in the mind.

In this sense, anyone who is spiritually unconscious is a schizophrenic.

I think a therapist may be a good idea for the OP, but finding a therapist that won't project their own unconsciousness into the gaps in your soul aura isn't always easy. Throw some anti-psychotic medication into this mix, and the odds of getting to the causal emotions are about zero, which isn't to say the pills wouldn't make the voices stop.

This energy that the OP referenced, according to the OP, shared information about a cross in a box. If we take the OP at his word, this is what some might think of as a poltergeist phenomenon, and something many 'classical therapists' would write off as a delusion before telling the patient how wonderful Paxil, Zoloft, and Seroquil are, or if we're gonna diagnose schizophrenia (the OP would probably get a schizo effective diagnosis), they'll throw some Lithium in you. Then in 10 years when the patient can't get an erection because of how upped his doses are, they'll throw some Viagra at him that he can pop like Tic Tacs. Sure his heart will explode when he's 60, but at least the public won't be bothered by his zany imagination.

Now, I don't mean to dump on the psychological community, but it's easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than it is for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. These doctors can be financially motivated , subject to collectively unconscious forces like profit driven pharmaceutical sales, not to mention, an often unconscious messiah complex where therapist knows best and must save the world from the man with the crazy poltergeist story. They're not all unconscious, but most, most certainly are.

Telling someone to seek therapy often comes with a pre-embedded stigmatization, that there is something 'wrong' with someone, when in reality it's just things that consciousness (what we all are) isn't fully conscious of. If you're suffering, maybe therapy can help. Maybe it will make things worse. Maybe it needs to get worse before it gets better. Maybe a life cloaked by spirits is part of your destiny.

[DreamKey]

Originally Posted by Estelwen

There is a fine line between the psychotic mental illnesses and demonic torment anyway. Personally, I'm not so convinced they're that different.

The soul complex (divided self) allows what Carl Jung once referenced as an 'invasion from the collective unconscious'. Demonic torment comes from collectively unconscious energy attracted to the vibrational field due to the soul complex and unhealed causal emotion.

[Starman]

Absolutely every human being, without exception, on this planet can be diagnosed as having some
kind of mental disorder using the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM), which
is what licensed mental health professionals' use to diagnose patients/clients. There is a very, very,
very, fine line between sanity and insanity, and most people cross that line many times during their lives.

A person can even have a duo-diagnoses, or triple-diagnosis, where they fit more than one diagnostic
category. A diagnostic axis usually outlines a primary diagnosis, a personality type, psycho-social
assessment, etc. and there are many different types of schizophrenia. But again, you can find a mental
health diagnosis, as listed in the DSM, for absolutely everyone on this planet.

[DreamKey]

Originally Posted by Starman

Absolutely every human being, without exception, on this planet can be diagnosed as having some
kind of mental disorder using the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM), which
is what licensed mental health professionals' use to diagnose patients/clients. there is a very, very,
very, fine line between sanity and insanity, and most people cross that line many time during their lives.

A person can even have a duo-diagnoses, or triple-diagnosis, where they fit more than one diagnostic
category. A diagnostic axis usually outlines a primary diagnosis, a personality type, psycho-social
assessment, etc. and there are many different types of schizophrenia. But again, you can find a mental
health diagnosis, as listed in the DSM, for absolutely everyone on this planet.

Word up. The issue is that the universe is split between conscious and unconscious. We are born into an energy field that wants to put us asleep, spiritually speaking, for lack of a better way of saying it. Depending on how and why we become unconscious, meaning, how and why consciousness falls asleep through your human form, you will mirror the division of the planet in a unique individual way.

To label anything a thought 'disorder' is misguided. The universe is perfectly ordered, including every person on the planet at all times. Being conscious of 'disorders', spirit invasions, demons, gods, guides, guardians, and angels doesn't make you a person in consciousness. Identification with the person (consciousness under the delusion of being a separate person) is the issue, and only consciousness can clear the way to a less divisive spiritual field.

At the same time, consciousness isn't concerned about clearing the spiritual field. It isn't 'in consciousness', rather, it is the consciousness where this field apparently exists. When the human form realizes it is consciousness, clearing the spiritual field can happen, but not out of some desire to save the world. Indeed, what you are is not in this world, and doesn't need to be saved.