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10-01-2011, 12:08 PM
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I believe we are all individuals.
Your sentence 'does individuality represent a particle or a piece of the same thing' I believe it can be both, we are particles of the same thing.
Take a really great box of lego and I'm not just talking about bricks. All the individual pieces, some round, some square, 2 holes, 4 holes, 6 holes some flat some deep etc. They are as similar as each other but all totally different. They all bring something different to the mix yet they are in essence all the same.
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Hi Kramer
I like the lego analogy
I also like the slab of clay one.
A slab of clay maybe formed / shaped In appearance of vases, cups and plates.
That appearance gives the impression that they are separate / different from each other.
If clay had the conscious ability to realize what It was, the plates, the cups, the vases would all realize that they are all the same clay, and there Is and has only ever been clay.
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10-01-2011, 12:10 PM
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I just checked all around and above me, and even peeked in the closet and under the bed. There's nobody else here. I'm most definitely an individual.
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Hi bbr
You didn't look within? he hee he
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10-01-2011, 12:19 PM
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Hi mate,
okay, more sensible answer.....Im not going to say that we are individuals because thats an open invitation to the non-dualists to burst through the door with swords drawn. However, I would say that there are individual consciousness's. As you point out, if there weren't, they would be no unique experiences happening, we would all be experiencing the same thing. Actually it goes beyond that, because if there were no unique experiences happening there would be no experience at all!
In order that God or Source can experience itself, it requires individual consciousness's. It requires uniqueness, difference, duality. If it was all blue there would be no experience of blue or anything else. It requires a rainbow of colour in order that it can experience itself.
So what I think we have is formless and form, and then the individual consciousness resides in the middle (though ultimately none of it is separate). Without an individual consciousness there would be nothing to give shape to the form (which is essentially just material) The individual consciousness gives shape and uniqueness, it is crucial to the diversity of Creation.
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Hi baboon
As you point out, if there weren't, they would be no unique experiences happening, we would all be experiencing the same thing.
Yes agreed. We would otherwise all be having a baboon moment so to speak
I feel It matters not as to whether Individuality Is experienced via illusory planes of existence or not..
What we are Is not illusory.
To where In essence we experience what we are Is.
x daz x
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10-01-2011, 12:22 PM
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What do people think regarding Individuality.
Any thoughts..
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Hi daz
I feel I am an individual expression of consciousness ...
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10-01-2011, 12:34 PM
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Hi daz
I feel I am an individual expression of consciousness ...
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Hi ya sound
I am Interested In your explanation to what you feel Individuality Is In relation to one-ness or separation? If u wanna share that Is lol
Also Interested In your thoughts - do you feel that what you are Is consciousness - or do you feel that what you are expresses just that within consciousness?
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10-01-2011, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by God-Like
Hi ya sound
I am Interested In your explanation to what you feel Individuality Is In relation to one-ness or separation? If u wanna share that Is lol
Also Interested In your thoughts - do you feel that what you are Is consciousness - or do you feel that what you are expresses just that within consciousness?
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Hi again daz :)
I will try to elaborate although I am not so good at explaining stuff. I feel 'being' individual means 'being' one of a kind ... enjoying a human kind of experience. We are one and many ... I feel that consciousness is all encompassing so yes in that respect i am consciousness and of consciousness and surrounded by consciousness. I dont have the words however it seems we experience a sense of separation so that we can, in deed experience the uniqueness of one self ...
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Originally Posted by sound
Hi again daz :)
I will try to elaborate although I am not so good at explaining stuff. I feel 'being' individual means 'being' one of a kind ... enjoying a human kind of experience. We are one and many ... I feel that consciousness is all encompassing so yes in that respect i am consciousness and of consciousness and surrounded by consciousness. I dont have the words however it seems we experience a sense of separation so that we can, in deed experience the uniqueness of one self ...
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Thanks sound you put words together just fine
We are one and many
Yes I agree one and the many are the same..
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10-01-2011, 03:43 PM
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In my world there is community, insight, love, real quality;
the individual is the total, the totality is in the individual.
All are One and the One is All..
- Nisargadatta Maharaj
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10-01-2011, 04:44 PM
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(i am) a temporary expression, a manifestation of consciousness- merely thinking it is an individual.
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10-01-2011, 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Lisa
(i am) a temporary expression, a manifestation of consciousness- merely thinking it is an individual.
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