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04-02-2012, 02:32 AM
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Can't get any better than this...oh God prove me wrong!
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04-02-2012, 02:35 AM
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Originally Posted by michael55
A Course In Miracles says that we are in Heaven now, and all that humans must do to see it is to recognize it or accept it. Is that true?  |
I tend to think that instead of being in heaven now, heaven is in us now. It's not a place where we go in the future, it's a place that exists right now, we just have to find it within ourselves.
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04-02-2012, 02:50 AM
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Originally Posted by michael55
Could some be in Heaven right now and know it... and others... delaying knowing?
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Can others be in Heaven right now and know it, well yes there are people in Heaven. However; in my belief Heaven is not right here in the world, for the world is wicked, there is no wickedness in heaven.
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04-02-2012, 03:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Dilchannan
Can others be in Heaven right now and know it, well yes there are people in Heaven. However; in my belief Heaven is not right here in the world, for the world is wicked, there is no wickedness in heaven.
Peace be with you!
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Oh very well said, but perhaps we should define what the world is since the Bible speaks volumes about the worldly. I like what you say Dilchannan, we are to be in the world but not of the world. Christians are members of God's kingdom which is “not of this world,” that is, heaven (Philippians 3:20). Yes, we are on earth for now, but our earthly lives are nothing but a vapor (James 4:14). But eternity, now that is a long time, and that is where a Christian’s focus should really be (1 Peter 5:10). So what then is worldliness???
http://www.gotquestions.org/worldliness.html
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Last edited by arive nan : 18-02-2013 at 02:43 AM.
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04-02-2012, 03:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Xan
"The kingdom of heaven lies within" ... within yourself, in the silent open presence there.
Xan
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Luke 17:21
Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is in the midst of you.
Heaven reigns in the heart by the law of God; it sets up its dominion over the passions, and brings every thought into captivity to the obedience of Christ. |
04-02-2012, 03:53 AM
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Originally Posted by TeeHee
Luke 17:21
Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is in the midst of you.
Heaven reigns in the heart by the law of God; it sets up its dominion over the passions, and brings every thought into captivity to the obedience of Christ. |
I think we're on the same page. All of those things are what I see as well, I just use different words for it. I accept that heaven reigns in your heart. 
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04-02-2012, 03:53 AM
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Originally Posted by TeeHee
Oh very well said, but perhaps we should define what the world is since the Bible speaks volumes about the worldly. I like what you say Dilchannan, we are to be in the world but not of the world. Christians are members of God's kingdom which is “not of this world,” that is, heaven (Philippians 3:20). Yes, we are on earth for now, but our earthly lives are nothing but a vapor (James 4:14). But eternity, now that is a long time, and that is where a Christian’s focus should really be (1 Peter 5:10). So what then is worldliness???
Thttp://www.gotquestions.org/worldliness.html
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Beautiful Teehee
Much Love and Peace to you Always
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04-02-2012, 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Seawolf
I tend to think that instead of being in heaven now, heaven is in us now. It's not a place where we go in the future, it's a place that exists right now, we just have to find it within ourselves.
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That is well said, IMO. |
05-02-2012, 12:13 AM
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Location: The Matrix
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Perspectives are everyhing in life.
"God is in His Heaven, and all is right with the world."
Browning
Consider...What is, "The World"?
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"I believe there are two sides to the phenomena known as death. This side where we live, and the other side, where we shall continue to live.
Eternity does not start with death.
We are in eternity now." - Norman Vincent Peale
"There is no place in this new kind of physics for both the field and matter, for the field is the only reality." - A. Einstein
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05-02-2012, 01:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Morpheus
Perspectives are everyhing in life.
"God is in His Heaven, and all is right with the world."
Browning
Consider...What is, "The World"?
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We already covered what the world is. I wouldn't have used the word world if Browning, but I'm not him. Jesus prayed for the kingdom come on "earth" as it is heaven.
John 17:9
I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine.
The world refers to the wicked, rebellious, vicious men. They are Godless, and perhaps all is right in their world, with no standard of right and wrong. |
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