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01-11-2011, 02:38 PM
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...even entertaining the possibility of a Higher Power has a profound effect on consciousness -
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Yes, a profound effect, indeed!
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Prepare yourself for the coming astral journey of death by daily riding in the balloon of God-perception.
Through delusion you are perceiving yourself as a bundle of flesh and bones, which at best is a nest of troubles.
Meditate unceasingly, that you may quickly behold yourself as the Infinite Essence, free from every form of misery. ~Paramahansa's Guru's Guru.
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01-11-2011, 02:39 PM
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Why did people start worshipping in the first place? Why did they have questions?
Possibly because of death or possibly because of life.
I don't know but I do know it was within me to seek and not from anything I was taught.
It was there and there was no ignoring it....lol
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01-11-2011, 02:51 PM
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Those are very good questions, more answerable by the divine vagaries of Grace than anything we will ever be able to definitively pin down, I think.
The only thing I am sure of is it's all according to 'The Plan'. ;)
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01-11-2011, 02:56 PM
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God is not something separate from you. You just have not experienced yourself. Your true self, that which cannot be named.
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01-11-2011, 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Humm
Those are very good questions, more answerable by the divine vagaries of Grace than anything we will ever be able to definitively pin down, I think.
The only thing I am sure of is it's all according to 'The Plan'. ;)
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Care to share more on why you are sure of that? Not to debate it but just to take a glimpse at how you see things.
See for me.......I have never been sure about any plan or purpose. I don't deny it. I just have not been graced with that knowing...........yet.
So I am curious
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01-11-2011, 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by WhiteShaman
Care to share more on why you are sure of that? Not to debate it but just to take a glimpse at how you see things.
See for me.......I have never been sure about any plan or purpose. I don't deny it. I just have not been graced with that knowing...........yet.
So I am curious
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When I was deepest in my spiritual awakening I felt it - lived it - with absolute conviction. It is a remarkable thing to go through life - moment by moment, each individual, infinite, but inseparable from the flow - with a perspective of absolute trust that all actions come to you with purpose, and come through you with purpose. EVERYTHING has meaning - from the birth or death of a loved one, to the number and color of hairs on that gnat in your ear.
I was not ready for it though. In many ways, I fell into it, lost myself into it, in a way that was not in all ways beneficial. I came back from it though with quite a different way of seeing things.
And when I say 'plan' I do not mean 'set in stone' - I mean 'plan' a step above the choices we make - I mean the plan that lays out our possible choices, and the consequences of them.
God is a bit more organized than I'll ever be.
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01-11-2011, 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by WhiteShaman
Why did people start worshipping in the first place? Why did they have questions?
Possibly because of death or possibly because of life.
I don't know but I do know it was within me to seek and not from anything I was taught.
It was there and there was no ignoring it....lol
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Whiteshaman..... here read this. It was probably in reaction to humanity being almost obliterated by flooding/climate change....
http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/20...tepe/mann-text
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01-11-2011, 03:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Humm
When I was deepest in my spiritual awakening I felt it - lived it - with absolute conviction. It is a remarkable thing to go through life - moment by moment, each individual, infinite, but inseparable from the flow - with a perspective of absolute trust that all actions come to you with purpose, and come through you with purpose. EVERYTHING has meaning - from the birth or death of a loved one, to the number and color of hairs on that gnat in your ear.
I was not ready for it though. In many ways, I fell into it, lost myself into it, in a way that was not in all ways beneficial. I came back from it though with quite a different way of seeing things.
And when I say 'plan' I do not mean 'set in stone' - I mean 'plan' a step above the choices we make - I mean the plan that lays out our possible choices, and the consequences of them.
God is a bit more organized than I'll ever be.
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Nice.....thanks.
In the deepest aspect of my awakening........life realized itself. Now it has no clue what THIS is all about...........lol
I envy your conviction........I relate to it but I just can't claim it as my conviction. I hope to some day but it has to happen on its own. I insist on that...lol
Thanks for sharing...........
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01-11-2011, 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by WhiteShaman
Nice.....thanks.
In the deepest aspect of my awakening........life realized itself. Now it has no clue what THIS is all about...........lol
I envy your conviction........I relate to it but I just can't claim it as my conviction. I hope to some day but it has to happen on its own. I insist on that...lol
Thanks for sharing...........
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I hate to sound like Moke but... lose your conviction. Just open up to it. Let it happen. It's the easiest way.
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