One Major Bible Verse Fake Pastors Don't Want To Hear

[BigJohn]

Originally Posted by Soul Seeker

Yes, like in Uganda where they have funded a kill the gays bill.

You might remember that the literacy you enjoy was forced down the Vatican's throat by Germany and the printing press, after years of Christians suppressing learning and killing bible holders who dared to read it.

"You believed and that was enough"

Not really. You also have to accept that you abdicating your own responsibility for your own sins is somehow a moral thing to do as you jump onto Jesus as your scapegoat.

Are you ready to do such a sin?

Regards
DL

I am curious......

Do Gnostics go to war? Do you find them in the military?

Do Gnostics defend themselves even to the point of taking another person's life?

[BigJohn]

Originally Posted by Soul Seeker

I was talking moral questions and not supernatural stupid questions.

You like to discuss ghosts and goblins and other things that have no possible end game while ignoring the Christian morality that victimizes so many, even in your own family tree.

My religiosity is for the living. Not for the dead.

Regards
DL

Getting a little personal......

You do not know anything about my family tree, so why did you say that?

Originally Posted by Soul Seeker

One cannot divorce the O.T. from the N.T.,

lots of people do you can buy only the new testament on amazon all jesus's words in red which is awesome! you can just read the red and ignore all the rest which lots of people do

a lot of new testiments have sold out due to xmas the new testiment with jesus words in red is a popular gift every year

Originally Posted by Soul Seeker
One cannot divorce the O.T. from the N.T.,

another idea popped into my head....what if you are jewish?
they don't accept the new testament at all?

i googled it and found this

Judaism does not accept the retronymic labeling of its sacred texts as the "Old Testament", and some Jews refer to the New Testament as the Christian Testament or Christian Bible.

so jews dont refer to it as the old testiment, they call it The Hebrew Bible and the first 5 books of the hebrew bible is The Torah

[sky]

Originally Posted by AbodhiSky

lots of people do you can buy only the new testament on amazon all jesus's words in red which is awesome! you can just read the red and ignore all the rest which lots of people do

a lot of new testiments have sold out due to xmas the new testiment with jesus words in red is a popular gift every year

Are the words in ' Red ' 100% guaranteed to be the words of Jesus

[Altair]

Originally Posted by AbodhiSky

lots of people do you can buy only the new testament on amazon all jesus's words in red which is awesome! you can just read the red and ignore all the rest which lots of people do

a lot of new testiments have sold out due to xmas the new testiment with jesus words in red is a popular gift every year

AbodhiSky... that's the first time I hear of this. I think we'll have a hard time finding Christians who only see the NT as an authoritative source.

How do you deal with quotes where he refers to stuff that one finds in the OT? How do you view his visit to the temple of Jerusalem?

[Miss Hepburn]

Originally Posted by Soul Seeker

I was talking moral questions and not supernatural stupid questions.

I'm leaving the bolded -This is what we are talking about - ''being polite''.
No question is stupid to the person asking it.
The word has no purpose in the sentence.
IOW, is unnecessary, rude, and a judgment.
Please follow what Native spirit said or this thread will be closed.

[davidmartin]

Originally Posted by AbodhiSky

Originally Posted by Soul Seeker
One cannot divorce the O.T. from the N.T.,

another idea popped into my head....what if you are jewish?
they don't accept the new testament at all?

i googled it and found this



so jews dont refer to it as the old testiment, they call it The Hebrew Bible and the first 5 books of the hebrew bible is The Torah

that's true. i enjoy the Jews for Judaism youtube channel it's sole purpose is to distance the heck of Judaism from Christianity, how Jesus wasn't the messiah, etc. I found them a friendly bunch. Always good to listen to all views. these beliefs i think can bring together as much as divide

[Still_Waters]

Originally Posted by sky123

And we have,

In this phrase Jesus identifies Him as the God of the Old Testament. ' I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God ' (Isaiah 44:6). “I am he; I am the first, I also am the last” (Isaiah 48:12).


I'm suggesting nothing, just pointing to a few verses

Continue to point ! That is the way I view scriptures .... as pointers to the Truth.

[Still_Waters]

Originally Posted by sky123

Oh, so John is a liar ?

Interpretations of Revelation regarding the end of the world never seemed convincing to me.

I have a "Jewish-Christian" scholarly friend who interpreted the Book of Revelation from the perspective of people living at that time. He viewed Revelation as a message of HOPE to the persecuted Christians of that time.

In brief .... just as mighty Babylon fell unexpectedly in a single day after the destruction of the First Temple ... so would mighty Rome fall after the destruction of the Second Temple. Although mighty Rome didn't fall in a day like Babylon and didn't actually fall until much later, the message of HOPE by John in Revelation resonated far more with me than the doomsday interpretations so prevalent today.

John continues to be relevant today since , just as Babylon and Rome fall, so will other powers of a similar nature throughout the course of history .... as with Hitler and others.