Bahagavad Gita -- Chapter 6

Since you're not enlightened yet, how do you know the advice you give to others is the right advice for them? Shouldn't you be waiting to give advice until after you've become enlightened and can see clearly?

Originally Posted by Topology

Since you're not enlightened yet, how do you know the advice you give to others is the right advice for them? Shouldn't you be waiting to give advice until after you've become enlightened and can see clearly?

The only personal advice I have given is to chakragal and that advice came from the I-Ching. It was not my own speculation.

Giving others philosophy does not require one to be enlightened. As long as that philosophy is based on sastra.

[Miss Hepburn]

Originally Posted by Topology

Verse 6.
Questions For All:
1) What does it mean to have a controlled mind?
2) What techniques do you or have you employed to control your mind?

Funny I would join in at Verse 6!!
I have become almost a master at mind control for the last 3 years.
I speak of it often.
That we must be a Sentry at our post 24/7.
If a sentry falls asleep what happens to those he is guarding/protecting? Disaster,death...or they are held captive.

Also I qoute Kenneth Hagan - Thoughts are like birds - you can't control them flying overhead, but you certainly have control to keep one from making a nest in your hair!

Techniques?
Easy...at the beginning as my head had not lifted from my pillow yet...and a thught od dread or fear would enter my mind and body --- I would smile raise a finger and say -"Oh, no you don't."

I said, "I've been down this path of yours (Mr. Mind or devil or lower ego self) and it leads nowhere -except to useless waste and destruction for me!!! Ha! I know your tricks - They don't call you a snake for nothing!"

Years later, the devil loses interest playing in a place he has
been booted out of so often and well.

But I see him playing tricks in others- using tools from his toolbox -- pride, self-righteousness (ego is all) within my spiritual buddies ----greed and thievery are not tools he can use on most pf us anymore - those are for the stupid and weak ---no the tricks of the mind are craftier as we become more "spiritually advanced". Ha!)


(I don't believe in the devil, but borrow the poetic image none-the-less. The Judeo-Christian paradgm leaves a long shadow!! )
Miss Hepburn

" Engage your mind always in thinking of Me..."

Music to my ears.

He who keeps his mind stayed on me I will keep him in perfect peace. Ahh.
Isaiah 26:3

Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn

Funny I would join in at Verse 6!!
That we must be a Sentry at our post 24/7.
If a sentry falls asleep what happens to those he is guarding/protecting? Disaster,death...or they are held captive.

Also I qoute Kenneth Hagan - Thoughts are like birds - you can't control them flying overhead, but you certainly have control to keep one from making a nest in your hair!

Nice analogies

Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn

Techniques?
Easy...at the beginning as my head had not lifted from my pillow yet...and a thught od dread or fear would enter my mind and body --- I would smile raise a finger and say -"Oh, no you don't."

You don't practice some form of meditation?

A controlled mind curbs the senses, by controlled senses one can control his tongue and fast, chant, speak truthfully. His eye does not turn at the sight of beautiful woman etc.

To control my mind I remember that the paramatma (vishnu) is present in all.

1) What does it mean to have a controlled mind?
>> One aspect: Superficial emotions and trivial of this world rolls of one's shoulder. Focus is on path to know God and doing no harm to others which includes not reacting in kind even when people are mean.
2) What techniques do you or have you employed to control your mind?
>>working on it as my mind is far from controlled, so I can answer to what I am employing in aid of this: chanting. Trying to get up to the 40 minutes of Hare Krishna as recommended in earlier thread. I also am doing Hatha yoga-full 75 minute session once/week, about 20 minutes to 30 minutes a day at home. I also meditate when I go to bed and visualize the strengthening of my root chakra (my most undeveloped one that needs building). I also use crystals that correspond to the chakras, and as I'm at a beginning journey-ask the demigod Ganesh to help me remove obstacles so I may move forward, but knowing this isn't an insert a free token and presto-out comes the product-it requires my OWN commitment

[Miss Hepburn]

Originally Posted by I-Ching

You don't practice some form of meditation?

You and I are different, I would have said,
"Do you practice some form of meditation?"

Yes.

Originally Posted by numerouno

A controlled mind curbs the senses, by controlled senses one can control his tongue and fast, chant, speak truthfully. His eye does not turn at the sight of beautiful woman etc.

To control my mind I remember that the paramatma (vishnu) is present in all.

No chanting / meditation ?

Originally Posted by chakragal

1) What does it mean to have a controlled mind?
>> One aspect: Superficial emotions and trivial of this world rolls of one's shoulder. Focus is on path to know God and doing no harm to others which includes not reacting in kind even when people are mean.
2) What techniques do you or have you employed to control your mind?
>>working on it as my mind is far from controlled, so I can answer to what I am employing in aid of this: chanting. Trying to get up to the 40 minutes of Hare Krishna as recommended in earlier thread. I also am doing Hatha yoga-full 75 minute session once/week, about 20 minutes to 30 minutes a day at home. I also meditate when I go to bed and visualize the strengthening of my root chakra (my most undeveloped one that needs building). I also use crystals that correspond to the chakras, and as I'm at a beginning journey-ask the demigod Ganesh to help me remove obstacles so I may move forward, but knowing this isn't an insert a free token and presto-out comes the product-it requires my OWN commitment

That's wonderful . I can see that you are serious about spiritual life.

Originally Posted by Topology

Since you're not enlightened yet, how do you know the advice you give to others is the right advice for them? Shouldn't you be waiting to give advice until after you've become enlightened and can see clearly?

Since you are not enlightened either how come you feel qualified to give Guidance to yourself?