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Originally Posted by Apakhana Akshobhya
As awareness allows, it seems that dichotomy of self and non-self is always going to be both right and wrong depending on how it's perceived. Both true and untrue? I sometimes say there is no self because if awareness can pop out of the space that self happens inside of therefore then there is no self.
It very hard to talk about lol. My teacher might say there is no self "as such" and this makes the most sense in realization.
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Buddhisam came into existence at the height of Hinduism when its (Hinduism's) materialism and ritualistic ferver was at its height . People identified with small material things only .Spirit was lost from rituals at that time. So to explain the people in the language they understand , their talk was negating the limited self with which people were conversant at that time .Then it became rigid enough to talk only of no-self .
So no-self is for people identifying with limited materialistic egoistic stuff like name,form,ego , doership , relations , places etc . When person rises from materialism and associates with cosmic spirit , the association with that as self makes more meaningful as complementary truth .
Understanding such stuff is very important as spirituality in last 3-4 centuries has been very probabilistic non-assertive due to conflicting non-convincing logics presented by so-called spiritual people . Spirituality can not give quantitative measurements yet its very clear what is right and wrong in descriptive terms. Being clearly articulated logical and assertive ( not obstinate/obdurate and retaining essential modesty) spiritual person is very important to make some really meaningful impact in life .
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