Let us talk about ourselves

[Miss Hepburn]

Originally Posted by Catastrophicfailure

.. the inner state of mental states, whatever persists there will persist.

Hey, what does *facepalm mean so I can be in the loop of hip, slang stuff....thanks.
If I may, without sounding like a dog with a bone, (cuz I do feel strongly about this), a mental state CAN change;
does not have to persist at all. I am proof of that!

Gee, I'd hate to think if someone had a mental state of low self-esteem, depression due to false messages from childhood,
would persist in that belief or thinking.
There are ways to change core subconscious 'mental states', patterns and belief systems.
So, ''whatever persists there will persist'', as you said...my input would be , "Yes, if nothing is done about it."
And wishing you a wonderful day, too.

[Catastrophicfailure]

Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn

So, ''whatever persists there will persist'', as you said...my input would be , "Yes, if nothing is done about it."
And wishing you a wonderful day, too.

YES; exactly! This is what i am trying to convey! Whatever is persists, however, we are in charge!
That's why i said in the end; "Who are you today?"

You see what i mean?

Whatever is, persists, however, we do not have to pertain to that, we are changing beings, let us stay that way and grow all the way up to the heavenly realm!

Facepalm means that i made a mistake, like "Jesus Christ, why did i say that?" *facepalm*
It has a different meaning as well, but that's not important here :P

[Catastrophicfailure]

Originally Posted by Catastrophicfailure

YES; exactly! This is what i am trying to convey! Whatever is persists, however, we are in charge!
That's why i said in the end; "Who are you today?"

So to conclude! Whatever persists, is.
Whatever is, persists.
However, what is can be changed but then it is not "issing" anymore.
So it did not persists.
So whatever is NOW is now persisting!

[Catastrophicfailure]

Originally Posted by Catastrophicfailure

However, what is can be changed but then it is not "issing" anymore.

The isness of life is always singing its song of isness.
We have to be with it as long as we are conscious beings.
In this isness we can either stay or go.
We can stay in one place with ourself and never change.
Or
We can keep on truckin', but whatever is "issing" now is perstisting, but we can always make a change happen!

This is not a trap; because, we are free beings and always have been, so whatever you are "issing" with now might not have to persist, but it does as long as we do not change ourself or the circumstances.

amen

[Miss Hepburn]

Got it..and I had No idea a *facepalm* meant mistake...thanks. :)

[Catastrophicfailure]

Where is what we are looking for?
If we are looking for sense pleasures then they are all around.
If we are looking for something beyond then, then where do we look?
I say this; why don't we look exactly where we are residing?
What if all this is the answer and the quencher of the thirst we are longing for?
What if the answer is right infront of our nose?
Why do we not stop the search and just be found for once?
Maybe we are like fishes, who wonders too much, maybe all this is the answer?
A fish ask for water because he heard much about it but he doesn't realize that he is swimming in it, it might be the same for us

What do you guys think?

[FallingLeaves]

as understood from earlier in this thread, common wisdom states that if you don't feel 'good' you should 'do something about it'.

I'm still waiting for someone to answer me when I ask 'why', with something other than 'everyone knows its good to feel good'?

I wonder if the answer to that question wouldn't answer your question as well???

[Catastrophicfailure]

Abiding as self the teachers say, sometimes we are troubled by it because we think we need to abide with the self.
The truth of the matter is that the self is Ourself. Who else can you be except yourself?
So live proudly as yourselves, live boldly, by the light we find our way says Ramana Maharshi.
Reside where you are i say, chill out, relax in the being you are, what else can you really do?
All else is effort and effort is bondage the masters say.
Relax, don't strain yourselves, just be who you have been all along.
What else can be easier on the soul and spirit of you?
Nothing, right?
All else is effort, so let's just chill out, relax, forget about today's troubles and be with the thing you are!
What else can you truly do?

This is today's insight, some might say it's redundant to write about it, yet we are not enlightened so what can we truly say about it?

Lets stick with the being we are and leave all else behind, to be who you are is the easiest task once the residue of desires and unsolved inner tensions are resolved.
To be who you are is a great gift bestowed by the gift itself, now use it wisely, what in the world can be easier than being what you are?

Many many hugs,

Jim

[Catastrophicfailure]

We have to see our lives for ourself, turn every stone that we see, why not?
Why not twist and turn things for truth's sake?
What has ever been a problem for truth?
Truth is there regardless of what we think or feel about it
So i want everybody to understand that truth is nothing to be feared
It is actually to be cherished
Whatever we do should be for the highest truth
In it lies a calmness, in it lies a sweetness of life because we do not hide or shrug away anymore
Just let truth be truth and abide to it, it is not hard, it is harder to find our way away from it. Why? Because it is there regardless of what we think and feel
Be with truth no matter what and see how easy life becomes, it is truly a gift we have, to be able to see and to use the truth that is available

[Catastrophicfailure]

In order to see truth we have to be willing to face it
We can't see what we have blinded ourself to
We can see it, but never let it be able to touch us deeply
We need to be strong, we need to be powerful, as powerful as truth because that is the foundation we can stand on
To be with truth is holy, it speaks no matter what
Just look at what you are hiding, truth is there
Look at what you cherish and love, truth is there
Truth is there in any case, because, truth is what is
You can't deny a flower in front of you, can you?
You can't deny the truth you are unwilling to face
Face it and be free from the tension
Relax and drink truth as you drink water after 40 days in a desert
What can possibly go wrong with facing what is?