What is sin?

[ayar415]

Originally Posted by Molearner

Ayard415,

By the same logic….letting violence run its course…..one would also offer no medical assistance to the injured….just let it happen with all its consequences….consider refining your thinking…..

Perhaps, you should refine yours. Are there any hospitals in the forests and the seas for the birds and the fish? We worry about our own skins to the exclusion of everyone and everything else. I'll bet you have health insurance. Is that your solution?

Spirituality of the right kind, to me, has to be defined by a different logic.

[ayar415]

Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn

Well, when they are attacking me as in self defense or self protection.
But otherwise, no...I get your point.

Self-defense. There was no self defense in the Jesus story. If that response was foolish, it wouldn't have inspired humanity.

[Molearner]

Originally Posted by ayar415

Perhaps, you should refine yours. Are there any hospitals in the forests and the seas for the birds and the fish? We worry about our own skins to the exclusion of everyone and everything else. I'll bet you have health insurance. Is that your solution?

Spirituality of the right kind, to me, has to be defined by a different logic.

Ayar415,

Unless caring animals establish hospitals in the forests that seems unlikely. And I would think under your logic that animals should willingly submit to violence.

[hallow]

What is sin???? Anything fun.

[ayar415]

Originally Posted by hallow

What is sin???? Anything fun.

Some sins are also crimes. Prison is no fun.

[ayar415]

Originally Posted by Rah nam

There is a reason and justification for anything in creation.
If we widen our perspective the concept of sin will fall apart.

If I am a Christian and my perspective of marital relationship is faithfulness between a man and his wife. Any violation of that compact in thought word or deed is a sin.

What is the reason and justification to widen my perspective of the spiritual significance of marriage?

[ayar415]

Originally Posted by Molearner

Ayar415,

Unless caring animals establish hospitals in the forests that seems unlikely. And I would think under your logic that animals should willingly submit to violence.

Let’s not debate and, instead, discuss the merit of my argument that “spirituality of the right kind has to be defined by a different logic”.

Can you widen your perspective, as Rah nam advocated, and let your concept of sin (i.e. injustice) fall apart? If you can, then you will understand the nature of sin and let violence run its course.

[Rah nam]

Originally Posted by ayar415

If I am a Christian and my perspective of marital relationship is faithfulness between a man and his wife. Any violation of that compact in thought word or deed is a sin.
What is the reason and justification to widen my perspective of the spiritual significance of marriage?

Taking into account of that fact, your entrapment in a religious belief system,
I only will say, you are at this point exactly where you are meant to be.
There will come a point in anyone's development where we let go of this kind of bondage.

[ayar415]

Originally Posted by Rah nam

Taking into account of that fact, your entrapment in a religious belief system,
I only will say, you are at this point exactly where you are meant to be.
There will come a point in anyone's development where we let go of this kind of bondage.

Come on, Rah nam. Give me your best shot. How does one widen perspective in order to cavort like the Devil with God's approval?

Take any of the Seven Deadly Sins and check its concept to examine how it is strung together by the narrow mind. Let's not do it like entrapped Christians but as free spirits. My perspective is that of an American who grew up in a den of sin known as New York City. You won't find a wider perspective than that of people like me in this planet.

[Rah nam]

I understand, as long as our face is in the mud, it is very difficult to see past the mud.