Thank you
WhiteWarrior for your replies, always good to know where people are like ‘coming from’.
There certainly are knowledgeable people on this forum one can learn from, but when it comes to actual teachers of the so called
“shamanic journeying” on this thread, the original poster’s mentioned Graham Nicholls - to me sounded most straight forward, credible, authentic and honest, plus he doesn’t pretend to be a shaman or any other spiritual teacher.
He seemed to have had a natural talent to start with, which he later honed in on, explored and developed.
But that is not
“Core Shamanism” - more like a ‘side door’, which can easily become badly distorted.
The Core to my knowledge is found in the Axis Mundi, … where stillness and movement come together, time and timelessness, oneness and multiplicity etc. etc. etc. which is an awareness shift where real shamanic spiritual visions & awakening experiences into nonduality takes place and also initiation.
It has been said, that all the shamans of the old were initiated by the Eagle. I would say Thunderbird/Eagle since ancestors were “Kokko” worshippers.
The Eagle comes with an ‘invitation’:
But it is not an eagle as such, nor a cloud, but like a ‘force-field’.
If one declines ‘Eagle’s invitation’ – that is not too good.
If one accepts – the Thunderbird swallows one up - which is the ‘shamanic-death-experience’ and then spits one back into the body - ‘rearranged’.
One also gets a gift, like a Power Animal, which is like an energetic function between the Source and manifest reality, which also acts like an ‘extra soul’ component for the shaman.
Since the shaman had already ‘died’ to the local “I am” and awakened to the Source “I AM” – so to speak, there is trust and protection to go into trances.
That is what I’ve learned anyways …