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Old 25-06-2015, 03:21 AM
Fleur de Frost Fleur de Frost is offline
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Is it possible for dark spirits to deceive clairvoyants?

I heard information from an extremely reliable, recommended-through-close-friends, frighteningly accurate clairvoyant tonight. But the information and instructions gave me felt extremely off. Essentially, she recommended I immediately let go of something that's catalyzed positive spiritual growth for me.

I was initially devastated, but mostly just confused. And angry. I trust that she's hearing information, but she said she was getting it from my guardian... Could someone have been disguising themselves and somehow tricking her? Can a dark entity cloak itself with light that much?

I would call it denial, but really, I'm just more confused and concerned. She was just so insistent on me letting go of something that lets my soul literally blossom... She can't even give me a reading until I let this go.

Could she have been being misled by someone with dark intentions claiming to be my guardian?
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Old 25-06-2015, 06:13 AM
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Are you aware you are protected, shielded? Those around me obviously will not say to much either only that the one protecting you is one of your own kind.
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Old 25-06-2015, 06:27 AM
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Yes definately they can,they can influence our own intuition too that's why I sometimes think rational people are clever to ignore it.
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Old 25-06-2015, 06:56 AM
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Yes they can deceive, same for supposed spirit guides.
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Old 25-06-2015, 07:08 AM
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Oh yeah. You might want to take a look at this book and read up on Joe Fisher and what ultimately happened to him. It's quite the cautionary tale. I read the book before I knew he'd died. It was fascinating but when I realized where this all ultimately lead him I did a lot of deep thinking about spirit guides, channeling, etc...

Joe's Wiki

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Fisher_%28journalist%29#Publications

His book...

The Siren Call of Hungry Ghosts

http://www.amazon.com/Siren-Call-Hungry-Ghosts-Investigation/dp/1931044023

The Sudden Death of Joe Fisher...

http://www.anomalist.com/milestones/fisher.html

There's a documentary on You Tube that relates too. That's where I first saw him and what made me read the book. This is part of it...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8KkgDNXg9E
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Old 25-06-2015, 08:11 AM
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Could she have been being misled by someone with dark intentions claiming to be my guardian?

I don't know what this experience is that has made your 'Soul blossom', but your still right to be cautious with these ppl. Because you haven't described exactly what this person is warning you about, l can't be sure if she's right or not..
But, yes, this happens to channeler's, mediums, new-ager's etc. constantly. Of course, they'll never admit to being deceived by lower astral and mental entities, because they assume they're divinely protected, (and they always feel special) when in reality there not..on both accounts..
People are easily taken in by the fact that the information their receiving is accurate. Don't be blinded by this. It's very easy for other-worldly beings to get accurate information. They have easy access to all kind's of information over there that we don't have here. They can read your mind and the minds of anyone around you. They can access the subconscious for a mine of information. And as you rightly suspect, they can appear as 'Angels of Light' and are conning many ppl these days..
The quote below is by a famous Guru and Yogi who was clairvoyant from birth.


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THE MOTHER: (speaking of bad-intentioned non-physical beings) …The chief characteristic of these astral beings is falsehood: their nature is made of deceit. They have a power for illusion; they can take the appearance of divine beings or higher beings, they can appear in a dazzling light, but truly sincere people are not deceived, they immediately feel something that warns them. But if one likes the marvelous, the unexpected, if one loves fantastic things, if one likes to live a romance, one is likely to be easily deceived.
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Old 26-06-2015, 01:25 AM
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It's very easy for other-worldly beings to get accurate information. They have easy access to all kind's of information over there that we don't have here. They can read your mind and the minds of anyone around you. They can access the subconscious for a mine of information. And as you rightly suspect, they can appear as 'Angels of Light' and are conning many ppl these days..
The quote below is by a famous Guru and Yogi who was clairvoyant from birth.

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THE MOTHER: (speaking of bad-intentioned non-physical beings) …The chief characteristic of these astral beings is falsehood: their nature is made of deceit. They have a power for illusion; they can take the appearance of divine beings or higher beings, they can appear in a dazzling light, but truly sincere people are not deceived, they immediately feel something that warns them. But if one likes the marvelous, the unexpected, if one loves fantastic things, if one likes to live a romance, one is likely to be easily deceived.

If this is true, then who or what in the upper realms could you ever possibly trust? Then nothing that comes from there could ever be considered 100% trustworthy and airtight. If so, then there is nothing, be it in life or beyond it, that can be considered legitimate and dependable in this way. I refuse to believe that we live in such a capricious universe.

I think in the end it has to be concluded, full stop, that by their fruits ye shall know them. I doubt a 'dark entity' would go to all of the bother to (as is true in my case) to heal my psyche, transform my life, making it yes into a truly incredible romance chock full of unexpected fantastic things, where I take the fruits of all of that and use them to help the people in life that I care the most about (such as my reincarnated grandmother who put her deepest trust into me to be reborn as my niece). If you don't consider the highest potential of life to be such a romance, I guess there is nothing more than I can say to you.

If these entities feed off of dark energy, then they (It) would have much preferred to have kept me in the lost depressed enervated state that characterized my early youth, wouldn't it? I don't feel drained by it, I feel constantly energized, my psyche free-flowing, so it most definitely is not a one-way street. You would have me believe that these false spirits are there helping you live your life to your highest potential, while in the background your true spirit guides are tsking tsking at you and your foolishness for living life like this to its fullest, but not lifting a finger to set you straight. Then what use are the latter, at all?
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Old 26-09-2015, 07:12 PM
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I agree with you John...I have a Christian friend who believes that because I do not use my gift of healing for the church that it is somehow being used for the dark forces. He says that by not using it for the church the dark side wins because it is leading me further from the church. My answer is how can something that is healing and helping people ultimately be bad.. This makes no sense at all.
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Old 26-09-2015, 08:49 PM
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I agree with you John...I have a Christian friend who believes that because I do not use my gift of healing for the church that it is somehow being used for the dark forces. He says that by not using it for the church the dark side wins because it is leading me further from the church. My answer is how can something that is healing and helping people ultimately be bad.. This makes no sense at all.

That was the kind of thing which annoyed Jesus about the Pharasiesse and temple life in general. They claimed it all came from their particular odium, and if they couldn't get people to fall in line with their thinking and 'work for them for the glorification of their belief system' they shunned them and speak against them, call them heretics and even stone them if they could control their powers and in the case of the Catholic church went on murderous rampages across Europe killing anyone who wouldn't convert. No one single person, clergyman, religion or belief system can claim higher state of consciousness unto them selves -it is what we are - every single one of us, and from every walk of life. Each of us have the potential to raise our frequency and experience various stages of awakening.
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Old 26-12-2015, 08:52 PM
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They say you can feel higher spirit guides their love and light can't be duplicated by a lower being the same way they can look like angels, they basically were Angels. So if you learn to trust what you feel you should know if you're listening to a higher spirit guide or not, also they only say helpful things not negative things
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