what would the world be like

If all the people lived as our native people did ?.... your comments please

[knightofalbion]

It depends on which perception of Native Americans one has.

(Research it) They were highly skilled horticulturalists and if all people learnt to work the land as they did, the world would be a garden, covered with an abundance of crops and orchards.

If 'you' subscribe to the Hollywood image of the efficient hunter then if all people lived like that, well with 7.1 billion people on the planet all wildlife would be wiped out within weeks.

[running]

Originally Posted by knightofalbion

It depends on which perception of Native Americans one has.

(Research it) They were highly skilled horticulturalists and if all people learnt to work the land as they did, the world would be a garden, covered with an abundance of crops and orchards.

If 'you' subscribe to the Hollywood image of the efficient hunter then if all people lived like that, well with 7.1 billion people on the planet all wildlife would be wiped out within weeks.

. Most indoginious people world wide do hunt. And do gather. And many grow as well. As the way population is now its impossible to hunt and gather. Had we lived in those ways population would of nevergone beyond what was sustainable to support life in those ways.

Your posts are always lopsided when it comes to anything to do with eating meat. I'm not even sure why I'm making this post. Your agenda is always crystal clear imo.

[knightofalbion]

Originally Posted by running

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1) Most indoginious people world wide do hunt. And do gather. And many grow as well. As the way population is now its impossible to hunt and gather. Had we lived in those ways population would of nevergone beyond what was sustainable to support life in those ways.

2) Your posts are always lopsided when it comes to anything to do with eating meat. I'm not even sure why I'm making this post. Your agenda is always crystal clear imo.

1) That wasn't the question though was it.

2) Compassion is what runs through all my posts. Something which sadly seems to be lacking in the posts of certain others.

And you have your own agenda. I'm not exactly sure what that is, but whatever it is, no matter who you are or what 'you' subscribe to, without love 'you' won't be travelling very far along the spiritual path, and hard-heartedness only leads to the ditch.
The message given by every spiritual Master and teacher of the Light. The message we all have to learn.

[running]

Originally Posted by knightofalbion

1) That wasn't the question though was it.

2) Compassion is what runs through all my posts. Something which sadly seems to be lacking in the posts of certain others.

And you have your own agenda. I'm not exactly sure what that is, but whatever it is, no matter who you are or what 'you' subscribe to, without love 'you' won't be travelling very far along the spiritual path, and hard-heartedness only leads to the ditch.
The message given by every spiritual Master and teacher of the Light. The message we all have to learn.

Well that makes two of us not knowing my agenda. Living is enough for me.

Insinuating hunting is out of Hollywood seemed pretty lopsided to me. It was agenda based imo. Im pretty sure hunting is a wayof getting food for most indoginious societys.As far as I'm concerned your idea of what love is doesn't make it everybody's. Just yours. You can save the preaching for someone else. More of that agenda it seems to me.. Perhaps I'm just not tolerant to it. Lol

[knightofalbion]

Originally Posted by running

Well that makes two of us not knowing my agenda. Living is enough for me.

Insinuating hunting is out of Hollywood seemed pretty lopsided to me. It was agenda based imo. Im pretty sure hunting is a wayof getting food for most indoginious societys.As far as I'm concerned your idea of what love is doesn't make it everybody's. Just yours. You can save the preaching for someone else. More of that agenda it seems to me.. Perhaps I'm just not tolerant to it. Lol

1) If you don't know where you're going, how will you get there?

2) There is only one way up....

Originally Posted by knightofalbion

If 'you' subscribe to the Hollywood image of the efficient hunter then if all people lived like that, well with 7.1 billion people on the planet all wildlife would be wiped out within weeks.

Are you trying to imply my ancestors never hunted and ate meat? They were not vegans or vegetarians. They ate what they could to survive and to be healthy. They ate meat respectfully and never took more than what they needed and wildlife was never wiped out.
It was only wiped out as soon as white society opened up food factories, butcher shops, farms and grocery stores and people hunt to supply hundreds of people to make cash instead of just their families. They waste most of the meat too - back in the day, my people ate the whole animal, heart, blood, organs, bones and all and used the skins and body parts for clothes, objects and ceremonial things. There was much prayer and ritual that went into the respect of all foods and people had big feasts sometimes, where whole communities could gather and enjoy food.
Now, people are too picky with too much food selection, they try unhealthy fad diets and eat toxic foods.

If everyone was to go off the grid all of a sudden, a lot of people would die. They wouldn't know how to fend for themselves because they are too reliant on their cell phones and technology - they wouldn't know how to survive in the wilderness.
If power went out all over the world for example, most people wouldn't even know how to chop firewood and make a fire to stay warm, let alone, they wouldn't want to.
People's survival instincts have been ruined by society and all the comforts we have.

But for those who are smart enough and handy enough to group together in small off grid communities to create tribes, they would create peaceful, natural environments for families. People would work together in peace to build each other shelters. They would take care of the elders, the women and the children. Perhaps each community would create some boundaries, rules and discover a hierarchy.
Perhaps many communities will coexist with eachother and help eachother out.

The majority of people will not be able to transition from having comforts to having no comforts at all - it's simply impossible for a society to go from having everything to having nothing at all (if they can do anything about it). But in the event of something big going down like power failing all over the world - people would be forced to think of alternative ways of living.
They'd still have the know how, they'd still have the materials -
if the world economy failed, people would bind together to create affordable or in a perfect and completely destroyed world, free alternatives to power sources and energy.
Because after all the cheap propane fireplaces run out, people are going to want to find easy ways to heat their homes. People are simply no longer created for the "hard" ways. All the trees are wiped out already so cutting them all down and going back to woodstoves would be most likely out of the question. If the world really got to a point of major break down, we'd likely also be aware at that point, just how terrible smoke is for our lungs. But science has come a long way in the art of going green.
They won't want to go back to the olden days of living in wilderness debris huts, let alone ****** shacks without running water.
People are inventive and many off gridders have already created lots of ways to live comfortably, without being part of the system at all.

I think about this a lot.
People would be forced to group together for survival. When you are living off of the bare neccesities your survival becomes your full time job and it is a very peaceful and simple way of life, though it is also very tough and hard compared to what most people are used to today at the office jobs, doing nothing. But with full communities, survival becomes easier as everyone has a certain job. Especially in the modern world where many of us have a lot more know how than ancient people did on certain things, it would be easier than it was back in the day.

If it were to really go back to olden days (depending on how far back you go) people would be more spiritual and more connected than they are now. There would still be wars, because back then, wars always happened although they had spiritual rituals.

Personally I dream of eventually going completely off grid, and I mean completely. No technology, nothing! I want to start a non profit wilderness camp to help youth, because our youth are the generation that matter! Get them off their cell phones and videogames and interested in life and community again, and teach them how to be healthy and get back to nature. I'd have it open year round, even during the winter, and it would help people and also the environment.
That is my ultimate dream.
I want to do this now, but my spirit guide tells me to wait because something big and even better is coming.

For better understanding of where you're coming from ...
Would you kindly elaborate on your thoughts when asking this question ...
Thanks!

Originally Posted by keith95843

If all the people lived as our native people did ?.... your comments please

There would be no pollution, no environmental emergency and no over population. The earth cannot support modern man; we were made to live as the original inhabitants of North America did.

[knightofalbion]

Originally Posted by Ecthalion

There would be no pollution, no environmental emergency and no over population. The earth cannot support modern man; we were made to live as the original inhabitants of North America did.

Don't you mean as the original inhabitants of Israel as mentioned in your signature? That would be a garden paradise, in true harmony with nature.