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29-01-2016, 07:35 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2016
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Help: Insomnia form meditation,Deep Trance state, Super consciousness?
Hello,
I think meditation is causing me insomnia.
I have been meditating regularly for the past 3-4 months, for at least 20 minutes.
My technique was always to focus on the surrounding and sounds, and just observing, letting all thoughts and feelings just stream away.
Recently I have started to really get the hang of getting in to a really deep state, I am also using now binural beats when meditating to get into that deep state.
The past 2 days I was able to meditate for 2-3 hours, and really quieting the mind down, almost to the point where mind chatter is gone, only observing the sound of the beats, or the inner feelings of the body and emotions. Some times the chatter is really loud and random, but I don't pay attention to it
This state of deepness is very blissful and relaxing and has expanded to even beyond meditation, where I can be not thinking in daily activities, like making dinner, only focusing on sounds and visuals around me.
But the problem is when I lay down, and try to fall asleep, I can't, I just relax really deeply, just like meditation, my whole body is tranquil and the, the mind is chattering but I do not focus on it, I cannot fall asleep and become unconscious, rather I feel Super conscious, aware of every sound or feeling in my body. I can lay for 3 hours not moving, but cant fall asleep.
Shifting focus between the in and out.
Also sleep has become very deep when I sleep, nothing can wake me up.
It seems as though the border between consciousness and unconsciousness has gotten stronger.
I still feel tired, and being in this meditative state does not replace sleep.
what are the things, techniques I can try when I am at the meditative state when trying to fall asleep.
Also if someone shared similar experience and would like to share.
Also any information regarding altering this state of consciousness would be appreciated.
Thanks
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29-01-2016, 08:35 AM
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Master
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Australia
Posts: 22,270
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheShaps
Hello,
I think meditation is causing me insomnia.
I have been meditating regularly for the past 3-4 months, for at least 20 minutes.
My technique was always to focus on the surrounding and sounds, and just observing, letting all thoughts and feelings just stream away.
Recently I have started to really get the hang of getting in to a really deep state, I am also using now binural beats when meditating to get into that deep state.
The past 2 days I was able to meditate for 2-3 hours, and really quieting the mind down, almost to the point where mind chatter is gone, only observing the sound of the beats, or the inner feelings of the body and emotions. Some times the chatter is really loud and random, but I don't pay attention to it
This state of deepness is very blissful and relaxing and has expanded to even beyond meditation, where I can be not thinking in daily activities, like making dinner, only focusing on sounds and visuals around me.
But the problem is when I lay down, and try to fall asleep, I can't, I just relax really deeply, just like meditation, my whole body is tranquil and the, the mind is chattering but I do not focus on it, I cannot fall asleep and become unconscious, rather I feel Super conscious, aware of every sound or feeling in my body. I can lay for 3 hours not moving, but cant fall asleep.
Shifting focus between the in and out.
Also sleep has become very deep when I sleep, nothing can wake me up.
It seems as though the border between consciousness and unconsciousness has gotten stronger.
I still feel tired, and being in this meditative state does not replace sleep.
what are the things, techniques I can try when I am at the meditative state when trying to fall asleep.
Also if someone shared similar experience and would like to share.
Also any information regarding altering this state of consciousness would be appreciated.
Thanks
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I sleep less when I meditate more, so at night when I can't sleep I just continue in meditation. If you worry about not sleeping, you will feel tired the next day, so, don't worry and you'll feel just fine.
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29-01-2016, 09:28 AM
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Master
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Sunny Australia
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Try to think of your feet or focus your breath on your dantien, lower belly ,you need grounding ....imo
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06-02-2016, 11:11 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 289
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I would do what Gem mentioned above, because your awareness extends in to every avenue of action as you progress in meditation, and this includes sleeping also, because we also continue our actions and unresolved issues when we sleep...and the meditative mind will still be operating....I think thats the wrong word to use...passively aware and not operating on the content would be a better way of looking at it.
just relax and continue medeitating....it will naturally extend anyway until there is no break in that awareness...it's what it does!
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06-02-2016, 12:20 PM
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Ascender
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Australia
Posts: 847
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Sounds to me like your going into alpha brain wave pattern when meditating. Hyper aware. That will keep you awake. Alpha is good for learning and solving problems making intuitive leaps. Its what young children naturally use when they are constantly learning and able to access spiritual gifts. You need to go the other way to a theta state. Alpha is the brainwaves getting faster. Theta is when they get slower and it is the natural brain wave pattern for sleep so it's easy to cross from awake theta to asleep theta. Mind chatter slows down and stops and you can use it to get there even by deliberately thinking in slow motion.
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