Meditation as it is

[Gem]

Hi, I'm back to talk about meditation again, and I'm only going to say the same things I have said before, but in a different way.

It's very simple in principle - just observe - be aware of what is, just as it is, in the way you experience it.

Let's start at the beginning, as a matter of faith, and believe that the quality of spiritual enlightenment exists within you and trust that nature, in her own way, will take care of everything if you allow her to.

This is healing, the resolution of trauma and the purification of mind at the deepest levels. It's a clearing of blockages that opens the channel so pure love flows through you. It is a journey from the crude, physical level of experiential reality to the ultra-refined reality of energy and vibration. It's an insight into the underlying nature of all things. It is the path of truth that guides you to become more deeply conscious of yourself, just as you are, and reveals the enlightened quality that exists within us all.

[ThatMan]

It basically boils down to - be aware of being aware - resting in awareness.

[sky]

Originally Posted by ThatMan

It basically boils down to - be aware of being aware - resting in awareness.

Short and sweet,

[OldChap]

Originally Posted by ThatMan

It basically boils down to - be aware of being aware - resting in awareness.

If we are “resting in awareness”, would we still need to meditate?

When we are aware of what we truly are and of the real purpose of us being here we will see everything from a benevolent perspective and be truly grateful to be alive here in the human form.

It is us being connected and entangled with what some call God, Spirit, or Creative Source.

Since God sees the big picture and by design we don’t, how nice it is to “let go and let God”. Meaning, let God benevolently guide us well through heightening of our intuition and synchronicity instead of us moving and bumping about in the dark with free will. We then will become truly more peaceful and joyful, needing less to mediate if at all.

Behind what we call spirituality, grace, miracles, and bliss is advance energies with advance physics.

What if God is not what most people envision God to be. What if God is an infinite meld of highly intelligent multi-dimensional quantum creative energies and much more that is highly biased in love, compassion, benevolence, and joy.

Energies that could at will instantly exist anywhere or everywhere in the smallest of the small to the biggest of the big. Hence, human concepts of time and space don’t apply.

Energies that are all intertwined, connected, and entangled. Hence, human attributes of envy, greed, conquering, hierarchy and superiority don’t exist.

Parts of the human body are multi-dimensional quantum energy receivers and transmitters. Who or what are we in constant connection and entanglement with? Perhaps God.

And the more love we have the stronger the connection and entanglement with God.

Love is not simply a human emotion. Love is the most powerful and highest vibration multi-dimensional quantum energy and much more.

Love raises the vibration frequency of our body’s cellular structures that by design will unlock extra-ordinary abilities for us to have far more control over our body’s health, our life, and our reality.

It is why all spiritually advanced human messengers here throughout the ages uniformly taught people a better way of living life that aligns with love.

A human with body in high vibration courtesy of love is in bliss 24/7, and is better able to transmit more efficiently love energy to those in need of love or don’t have love yet.

The caring and compassionate God is pure love. Our true nature cloaked within and waiting patiently for us onto uncover is pure love.

Connect the dots only if one wishes to do so.

Love is what returns us to being in alliance, in unity, and in oneness with God.

Our adventure here is to see if while in the human form that is purposely dumbed down spiritually and disconnected from God to start could we as humans then work our way to return to being in oneness with God.

An easy adventure is no fun, so we made it extremely challenging by having free will to freely choose, forgetfulness of our divinity, and a built-in ego mind that shuns love and compassion for survival to keep us out of danger and to stay alive to carry out the adventure.

Calling it an adventure is to lighten up the mood. In more seriousness, it is a maximum stress test between high and low consciousness or between light and dark energies on this planet.

What will we choose and how will we behave and treat others without our divinity and love. What we do here is part of a much bigger and grander divine plan for the creation of new universes. It is why there are so many entities observing us with great interest.

What an amazing and extremely challenging long term adventure we bravely and passionately signed up for when in our true home on the other side of the self imposed Veil of Forgetfulness.

We are not really here to learn, but more about remembering our divinity.

Everything we had and have done here and in the cosmos are recorded and stored as multi-dimensional quantum energy in the “junk” part of our DNA and elsewhere.

The more love we have and the higher our consciousness, the more access we have to that enormous library of wisdom and knowledge within.

Hard part is we all have free will to choose love or not. What will we choose is the million dollar question.

And free will to mean free will with very minimal divine intervention. At very low wisdom and benevolent maturity to start, without a bit of divine intervention we most likely would destroy ourselves in a short time.

[Unseeking Seeker]

Originally Posted by OldChap

If we are “resting in awareness”, would we still need to meditate?

What if God is an infinite meld of highly intelligent multi-dimensional quantum creative energies and much more that is highly biased in love, compassion, benevolence, and joy, Energies that could at will instantly exist anywhere or everywhere in the smallest of the small to the biggest of the big, Hence, human concepts of time and space don’t apply And the more love we have the stronger the connection and entanglement with God.

Love is not simply a human emotion. Love is the most powerful and highest vibration multi-dimensional quantum energy and much more.

Wanted to quote the entire post but SF rules do not allow.

[Gem]

Just thought I'd come back and continue where I left off because every time an idea comes to mind, even a good idea about meditation, it's 'just thoughts', and I think the thing to understand is, that present point in time prior to the idea, while the idea unfolds and after that thought has passed.

On a forum we have big ideas, and typically we want to put forth high notions: I have an idea, I'll start praying, or I'll resting awareness, or God like this and that. I don't really have these ideas. I'm a bit more, "This is what it's like," and... nothing else.

You know the difference between what is real in the experience and what the mind fabricates, and although very good ideas, they're still mental fabrications, so between knowing what happens FR FR and what is imagined, there's a sense of knowing what's what and discerning.

If you're an advanced spiritualist, then maybe not, but for the regular person, not chasing ideas which are pretty grandiose and being as simple as possible, because it's simply true, 'This is how it is,' and I'm aware.

Meditation 'as it is', means there isn't an imaginary. Not intentional imaginary, like thinking of God or praying or remembering what a guru said etc. Of course for a regular person the mind will imagine things unintentionally, the future, the past and spiritual things like chakras and God and so on, and distract you from the actuality of real lived experience, so you use a return point such as breath, and each time you notice mind is ruling the roost again, you're already back in reality. Having seen all this, you can then assess yourself, like, 'Most of the time I'm distracted with mental stuff' or whatever the case might be, and maybe, be motivated to improve that condition.

After this there might be more good ideas that are titillating much more so that this rather mundane post, so this might be 'drowned out' as it were, but one is just aware of the reality of life, as it actually is, in the way you experience it.

The subject itself, which is meditation, can't really be pinned down but we're just focusing in, back to the moment in which you actually live.

[Gem]

It's a slow burn, but my meditation threads take a while to warm up.

Since this is a healing or purification process, so there's more to it than you'd first think. The process only unfolds under the right conditions, and under the right conditions, it unfolds on its own. Some people's current circumstances aren't conducive to the process. Depending on personal circumstances sometimes the start is just making life changes that better align with spiritual development.

If the social situation is somewhat irate and people around are manipulative, draining, aggressive, hateful etc, that's not a good, trusting situation within which to become exposed and vulnerable. It's better to get rid of such people and make such changes to live in a safe and supportive environment. I don't know what can better align your external existence to deeper self-discovery, but you do.

The healing process is analogous to being sun-burnt. The skin gets sensitive and delicate and needs to be handled with care. I also liken it to a small sapling - it needs to be staked with a fence around it because it's not strong enough to withstand the pests and storms. The meditative process like-wise needs protections and conducive conditions. That depends what your life is like. Whatever that is will let you know what's best to do to make things right.

The above are external things. There are internal conditions as well. Internal conditions require a moral life. Truthfulness is most important, and being tempted, intoxicated and ravenous won't work. Of course all the normal things like stealing, deception, hurting and using people, malicious gossip and ill-will also have to to be moderated - but everyone knows that.

Because I'm not talking to specific individuals, I can only generalise, but everyone who wants to heal and resolve all sorrows has to follow the truthful path toward the enlightened quality within themselves. The only difference between people is where to begin. If the external conditions are not ideal and you can see how to make them better, take that step. Each individual is alone to discern what needs to be done that is for the best, but at very least, procrastination can end now and taking a decisive step to make things 'right' can happen tomorrow.

All in all, having the right conditions is important. The world around you and the people in it need to constitute a safe supportive environment, and the way you are inside has to be good. If these can be more aligned to spiritual purification, might as well make the change for the better.

[Unseeking Seeker]

I’d say meditation is essentially resting in awareness without thought, melding head with heart, attention poised and animated in stillness, receptive and unresistant. I subscribe to the view that meditation should be a flowing orientation rather than an activity but of course, I accept this is not a conventional approach. (It’s not that I have not had long spells of deep meditation immersion but that was me being meditated upon rather than me meditating, if it makes sense.)

This is how I look at it. There are many views and practices; why the Vijnana Bhairava Tantra speaks of 112 meditations techniques! For those interested, here’s a link to the thread on this ~ https://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/s...d.php?t=141825

[sky]

Originally Posted by Unseeking Seeker

I subscribe to the view that meditation should be a flowing orientation rather than an activity but of course, I (It’s not that I have not had long spells of deep meditation immersion but that was me being meditated upon rather than me meditating, if it makes sense.)

Makes perfect sense, there's happenings and doings.....

[JustBe]

I have a question.

If I’m in a sitting mat practice and I have had a good few weeks in my everyday life, where by people life and circumstance has been great, your practice would most likely present those qualities of how you feel wouldn’t it? There wouldn’t be too much activation to stir up inner processors.

But in the event I had a poor quality couple of weeks in my life, with activations and reactions stirred up, my practice would most likely get a little more uncomfortable through those things?

So is the practice important to not only be aware of the uncomfortable you, but also the vibrant joyous, blissful you?

And if so, then all these streams of you opening and being present with would be processors within the unfolding of becoming you without any of it?

I’m beginning to think I’m a bag of nothingness lol.. it truly in these realisations becoming open and clear, I’m just being me. I feel connected, I feel alive, I feel grounded.

I’m a great believer in the middle path.. it’s how my process has balanced me to learn and grow through.

But what qualities actually can we name, that constitute this place of residence within self.

I’m sorry if I’m jumping the gun.