My diet is bugging me. What do you do if health issues make you eat meat?

[sea-dove]

I used to be vegetarian in the past. Im currently are hating that I need to eat so much meat (is anyone else here have an issue like mine and what did you do?). Eating meat, is also preventing me from being able to do all my yogi meditations (as that is a contra-indication thing due to the reaction we can get to the meat energy).

I need to eat a lot of meat due to health issues.. both my specialists and my two dietitians all tell me I need to eat meat due to my severe health issues. So I have been told to eat meat or eggs at every meal as these things are protein with no carbs at all and will help stop my abnormal insulin spikes I get (note I go almost crazy with very high insulin spikes and have got myself in trouble with the police after it spikes too high cause I had too many carbs). (the thought of eatting meat every meal is making me want to gag right now).

My diet with my insulin issue needs to be very very low in carbs (lower then the average diabetic can eat eg one small piece of low carb fruit per day (I may have fructose intollerence on top of that), 10-15 nuts due to their carbs, I also need to avoid lots of vegatables too due to this).

Thing is, Ive since now developed issues to eggs so have had to cut those right back and probably should be avoiding them. Turns out I have a CBS double mutation so can have issues to sulphur things eg eggs, brocolli etc


I also think I have issues with gluten..gluten intollerance (I have the celiac disease gene and my father and all his brothers have celiac disease). I also have food intollerances to various other things peanuts (I get a stomach ache with and my specialist said to not have at all as a minor peanut issue can suddenly go lifethreatening), cashews, artifical sweeteners make me sick. I also was intollerant to dairy (the protein in the dairy I think as it wasnt the lactose) for a couple of years so couldnt have it (it used to give me a headache).. I seem to be able to eat it okay now but just dont have a lot of it (and just hope I dont get intollerance to it again).

End of last year I had a near lifethreatening food reaction ..to what I dont know (I'd breached my diet and had some pizza hunt pizza and a small plum), where my mouth, tongue, and lip swelled up huge and I should of rang an ambulance (only reason I didnt was I hate hospitals). So now I have an epi-pen to inject myself if it happens again. (As my daughter is seriously allergic to kiwi fruit.. Im thinking the reaction probably was due to the plum). Doctor wouldnt do skin testing on me as was worried I'd end up in hospital from that.

To top that off I dont like a lot many of the plain salad veg I can eat eg celery, lettuce, cucumber so wont eat them alone but find them okay in a salad. I cant thou make much as Im disabled and in a wheelchair so struggling to make up something like a salad (and most of the shop ones have sugar added or stuf I cant eat).

Anyway.. Im in a real dilema. I really want to cut back on my meat with the intent to go vegetarian again but no idea how on earth Im going to be able to do it with all the things I cant currently eat and the severity of my health issues.

Any one got ideas for me? (I cant have cereals, toast etc etc).

I cant handle the thought of meat tonight no matter what the doctors say, so will be having celery with macadamia butter made with xylitol (which I need to make up.. fortunately tonight Im on my feet ok and able to do so). Im missing a lot of my meals due to the issues I have around food.

I would take pills with vitamins and minerals, but I would not eat meat.

[innerlight]

I have diet issues that have me eat meat, as fruits and veggies are not able to be tolerated or digested properly by my body and causes me to have issues all day if I have them. I function my best when I am eating meat alone..

One needs to do what is best for them in regards to their health and their bodies... And in perhaps time when their body heals itself they can try changing their diet up.

Originally Posted by Teiksma

I would take pills with vitamins and minerals, but I would not eat meat.

Me too.

Originally Posted by Teiksma

I would take pills with vitamins and minerals, but I would not eat meat.

This would not help at all in the situation described. Sea-dove has to reduce carbs because of insulin spikes. If you have to reduce your carbs, you have to choices. Either starve, or get the calories you need from other food groups. That leaves fat, which will compound matters, or protein.

Protein is the sensible choice. Protein is not sugar, so it doesn't mess with insulin. Protein is not fat, so it doesn't clog arteries.

If you have to swap carbs for protein, then fish is the best way to go. Fish tends to be very lean, and mostly protein. It also tends to have other essential mictonutrients that are hard to find elsewhere. But it tends to be expensive.

So that leaves meat.

Of course there are pulses (beans and such) but they tend to have a fair few carbs in there too, and they also have phyto-estrogen, which might not be what you really want in large quantities. Which takes us back to meat.

Of course there are protein powders these days. I've never tried them, but plenty of people seem impressed.

Or there is one cheap fish option, tinned tuna. But I guess fish is still meat.

[Tobi]

sea-dove, I am sorry you have such a difficult food problem.
Try not to be upset about your need to eat meat and fish. Don't eat those things with any sense of shame. There is little you can do, it seems.Your circumstances are unusual, and you have to look after yourself too.

I just had a quick look at vegan/vegetarian protein sources, and yes many do contain a percentage of carbohydrate. That's educational for me, as I had no idea! Even Tofu contains a small percentage of carbohydrate.

[sea-dove]

Originally Posted by Tobi

sea-dove, I am sorry you have such a difficult food problem.
Try not to be upset about your need to eat meat and fish. Don't eat those things with any sense of shame. There is little you can do, it seems.Your circumstances are unusual, and you have to look after yourself too.

I just had a quick look at vegan/vegetarian protein sources, and yes many do contain a percentage of carbohydrate. That's educational for me, as I had no idea! Even Tofu contains a small percentage of carbohydrate.

Yeah I cant even eat Tofu (or rice, I cant even non white rice) or anything like that due to their carbs.

Im so much wanting to move on spiritually but feeling like I cant while Im responsible for so much animal murdering.

I have a lot of (edit) energy clearing out my body which I dont have any idea at all what it is.. I sometimes wonder how much of it is to do with meats (thou its probably past life stuf and this lifetimes other stuff clearing... but I dont know).

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[Tobi]

Maybe this crisis is happening to try to show you the root cause of something which is causing disharmony in your body....possibly....
Working on the 'it's always darkest before the dawn' theory.
If so, it may pass at some time(?) In the meantime there must be some lesson in the strict meat-eating situation you find yourself in. It must be quite deep, and difficult to understand in many ways. I don't know what it is, but let me tell you this:
I am vegan, and don't eat meat. However, if you were my child, and I was aware of your situation, what do you think I would do? I would get you meat and fish to eat to look after you while you are in this situation.

Yes I think the word filters don't like the word beginning with 'c' and it's considered a swear word here. I will edit it out.

[sea-dove]

Originally Posted by Badger1777

This would not help at all in the situation described. Sea-dove has to reduce carbs because of insulin spikes. If you have to reduce your carbs, you have to choices. Either starve, or get the calories you need from other food groups. That leaves fat, which will compound matters, or protein.

Nods, this is correct, taking vitamins will not stop at all insulin spikes.

Im already on lots of vitamins as I have deficiencies and also gene mutations causing me issues in that area (so I need active folate.. my body is down 80% in its ability to use the normal form gotten from food as my body cant convert it (my daughter has similar to spina bifida due to me having that gene mutation), I also have issue with vit D as well due to my body.. and I also have to take a active form of B12 (methyl B12) as due to my chemistry issues my body needs the methyl group).

The thing with insulin issues.. is that one has these kinds of issue one needs the fats too. Ive been told by my specialists to have only full cream dairy as the fat slows down (or maybe it was blocks some) the absorption of insulin.

If you have to swap carbs for protein, then fish is the best way to go. Fish tends to be very lean, and mostly protein. It also tends to have other essential mictonutrients that are hard to find elsewhere. But it tends to be expensive.

Fish is still killing something (hence karma and negative energy) which is the whole reason why I want to be vegetarian in the first place.

Of course there are pulses (beans and such) but they tend to have a fair few carbs in there too, and they also have phyto-estrogen, which might not be what you really want in large quantities. Which takes us back to meat.

Yes. On the diet Im on, I cant eat any of the pulses...as they have too many carbs.

Of course there are protein powders these days. I've never tried them, but plenty of people seem impressed.

They usually contain sugar or artifical sweeteners.

One of my specialists has tried at one point to put me onto a protein powder (this was before my insulin issue was diagnosed), he tried to put me onto one in which hospitals use for tube fed patients which would of given me all the vitamins and minerals I needed (except the ones I need special forms of). That one was a soy based protein powder. I became intollerant to it in less then 2 weeks to the point I was then had to go to the chemist and buy adult size nappies as I completely was loosing then bowel control. From that I must have an issue with "soy" as well.

I can eat flaxseed meal as that doesnt have carbs but found that one cant do a lot with it, I tried making pancakes out of it one day, that was a disaster (it goes all gluggy, I thou did work out from experimentation, how to make like vegan pudding with it which is reasonable... maybe I should go to having this pudding every morning).
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My doctor wants to put me onto a med for my sugar/insulini issue but thinks right now that my diet needs to be sorted out more first as she says its very important to be eatting 3 decent meals per day with this med (and neither of the two nutritionists have known what to do about me due to the amount of issues I have, other then tell me what I shouldnt be having and saying I need to eat meat every meal... with certain salad veg).

[Gem]

Originally Posted by sea-dove

Nods, this is correct, taking vitamins will not stop at all insulin spikes.

Im already on lots of vitamins as I have deficiencies and also gene mutations causing me issues in that area (so I need active folate.. my body is down 80% in its ability to use the normal form gotten from food as my body cant convert it (my daughter has similar to spina bifida due to me having that gene mutation), I also have issue with vit D as well due to my body.. and I also have to take a active form of B12 (methyl B12) as due to my chemistry issues my body needs the methyl group).

The thing with insulin issues.. is that one has these kinds of issue one needs the fats too. Ive been told by my specialists to have only full cream dairy as the fat slows down (or maybe it was blocks some) the absorption of insulin.

I suppose you have expert advise on diet already and people here on SF can't interfere with that.

Fish is still killing something (hence karma and negative energy) which is the whole reason why I want to be vegetarian in the first place.

So it's a conflict between religious beliefs and what you actually have to do.

Yes. On the diet Im on, I cant eat any of the pulses...as they have too many carbs.

They usually contain sugar and artifical sweeteners.

One of my specialists has tried at one point to put me onto a protein powder (this was before my insulin issue was diagnosed), he tried to put me onto one in which hospitals use which would of given me all the vitamins and minerals I needed (except the ones I need special forms of). That one was a soy based protein powder. I became intollerant to it in less then 2 weeks to the point I was then had to go to the chemist and buy adult size nappies as I completely was loosing then bowel control. From that I must have an issue with "soy" as well.