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Old 10-12-2011, 12:41 AM
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Spirit vs. Energy

Albert Einstein said that energy could be turned into matter and vice verse. So energy is to matter like water is to ice. If God is a spirit and energy is matter, then energy must be the opposite of spirit. Is energy the source of illusion and only experienced in the physical realm? What are your thoughts?
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Old 10-12-2011, 01:09 AM
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jesus concept of spirit is wind.
wind is air in motion
air is an invisible substance of gas molecules
so spirit is an invisible substance in motion.
energy is the motion if the spirit
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Old 10-12-2011, 01:31 AM
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Why can't spirit be energy?
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Old 10-12-2011, 01:32 AM
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jesus concept of spirit is wind.
wind is air in motion
air is an invisible substance of gas molecules
so spirit is an invisible substance in motion.
energy is the motion if the spirit

Hi Hybrid!
I didn't know that Jesus's concept of Spirit was wind. Could you please point to the Bible verse?
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Old 10-12-2011, 01:53 AM
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Why can't spirit be energy?

energy is motion.
something must be moving.
but yes, loosely speaking they can be interchange
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Old 10-12-2011, 01:55 AM
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Hi Hybrid!
I didn't know that Jesus's concept of Spirit was wind. Could you please point to the Bible verse?

5 Jesus answered, “Very truly I tell you, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless they are born of water and the Spirit. 6 Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit[b] gives birth to spirit. 7 You should not be surprised at my saying, ‘You[c] must be born again.’ 8 The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit.”[d]
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Old 10-12-2011, 02:03 AM
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energy is motion.
something must be moving.
but yes, loosely speaking they can be interchange
Spirit doesn't move?
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Old 10-12-2011, 02:06 AM
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Spirit doesn't move?

it does. what i meant was that spirit to be meaningful must be a substance that moves.
whether the substance is material or non material
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Old 10-12-2011, 02:38 AM
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For something to move something must change. Does God change?
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Old 10-12-2011, 02:42 AM
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For something to move something must change. Does God change?

not the essence of god. what changes is the patterns of motions, not the substance.
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