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10-04-2011, 03:13 PM
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A technique that can work if you try!
I've been reading a lot here some have been trying and trying without success on an OOBE. Either the method they use is too difficult or too abstract to do. One of the chief reasons why one cannot accomplish this is because of imagination. This is one concept that is a common thread in my readings and underlies the different systems. It is quite simple actually. Imagination is why little kids can do it easier than grownups. Imagination is a belief and is the start to realizing that is is YOU that is doing it. It's all about your experience and your understanding how things get created so why not imagine it happening?
Here is what I do when I get in a jam: I find a comfortable space with walls and a roof line. Call these 'anchor points' if you'd like to put a term or concept to this. Now go to one of those corner points above you. This would be where a wall meets with the ceiling or roof. Now imagine that you are there and you are looking down on yourself. I know that may sound weird but just try it. At first, you'll have a rush of emotions and different thoughts running around in your head but that is expected for a bit until you get comfortable to the idea. As you continue to do this they will all melt away and you'll be able to focus clearly and realize that you can do it from any point. Once all the considerations melt away you'll begin to know that it is YOU at that point and your point of reference has now shifted. This is my Lesson 1 I guess!
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11-04-2011, 09:18 AM
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Does this require you to try AP with your eyes open then?
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11-04-2011, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Boom
Does this require you to try AP with your eyes open then?
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Not at all. Having your eyes open or closed is not a requirement.
One further note about this: As you become more sensitive to the things around you, you'll be able to change points of references during your day-to-day activities. I strive for understanding and clarity so I can move on as I see fit.
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13-04-2011, 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Kontufuto
I've been reading a lot here some have been trying and trying without success on an OOBE. Either the method they use is too difficult or too abstract to do. One of the chief reasons why one cannot accomplish this is because of imagination. This is one concept that is a common thread in my readings and underlies the different systems. It is quite simple actually. Imagination is why little kids can do it easier than grownups. Imagination is a belief and is the start to realizing that is is YOU that is doing it. It's all about your experience and your understanding how things get created so why not imagine it happening?
Here is what I do when I get in a jam: I find a comfortable space with walls and a roof line. Call these 'anchor points' if you'd like to put a term or concept to this. Now go to one of those corner points above you. This would be where a wall meets with the ceiling or roof. Now imagine that you are there and you are looking down on yourself. I know that may sound weird but just try it. At first, you'll have a rush of emotions and different thoughts running around in your head but that is expected for a bit until you get comfortable to the idea. As you continue to do this they will all melt away and you'll be able to focus clearly and realize that you can do it from any point. Once all the considerations melt away you'll begin to know that it is YOU at that point and your point of reference has now shifted. This is my Lesson 1 I guess!
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I am all new to the AP, I suppose, but it has been an underlaying interest for some time. This lesson gives inspiration. Thank you!
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13-04-2011, 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Caityaka
I am all new to the AP, I suppose, but it has been an underlaying interest for some time. This lesson gives inspiration. Thank you!
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You are welcome!
Here is some additional information to realize: Imagination is just the first step or pre-step. It is like grease on the wheels. It helps move things along. Imagination is a 'like concept' into what you'll actually be doing in that it provides that 'shift' that is needed when you do actually do it! Imagination is the closest concept I can come up with to provide the groundwork for the effectual perception(s).
Hope this helps!
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14-04-2011, 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Kontufuto
You are welcome!
Here is some additional information to realize: Imagination is just the first step or pre-step. It is like grease on the wheels. It helps move things along. Imagination is a 'like concept' into what you'll actually be doing in that it provides that 'shift' that is needed when you do actually do it! Imagination is the closest concept I can come up with to provide the groundwork for the effectual perception(s).
Hope this helps!
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Think I get what you mean. Let's see!
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14-04-2011, 09:31 PM
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Think I get what you mean. Let's see!
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Something else to ponder about this endevour you may be subscribing to: The points do not have to be real. You can create them as easy as you see them with your physical eyes. An example would help: I created some of my own space and parked myself at a 'vantage point'...a 'point of view' spot. There was nothing physical about this creation. I created it out of thin air! Anyone should be able to do this and not rest on a tangible sub-set of the world we live in. Once that point is established, you are on your own to experience the wonderful multi-verse we live in!
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14-04-2011, 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Kontufuto
Something else to ponder about this endevour you may be subscribing to: The points do not have to be real. You can create them as easy as you see them with your physical eyes. An example would help: I created some of my own space and parked myself at a 'vantage point'...a 'point of view' spot. There was nothing physical about this creation. I created it out of thin air! Anyone should be able to do this and not rest on a tangible sub-set of the world we live in. Once that point is established, you are on your own to experience the wonderful multi-verse we live in!
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Thank you for sharing! Sounds reasonable.
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15-04-2011, 02:25 AM
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What an amazing way to help people understand! I've never tried AP, but I've always found it amazing, and always had a strong belief that it is possible! Of course, now a days, i know ANYTHING is possible. But even before I had mustered that much faith, I believed in AP. This gives me even more faith to try!! Thanks very much, I will update if I experience anything wonderful :)
Peace. Love. and Light :)
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15-04-2011, 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by surrendertotheflow
What an amazing way to help people understand! I've never tried AP, but I've always found it amazing, and always had a strong belief that it is possible! Of course, now a days, i know ANYTHING is possible. But even before I had mustered that much faith, I believed in AP. This gives me even more faith to try!! Thanks very much, I will update if I experience anything wonderful :)
Peace. Love. and Light :)
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Thank you kindly!
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