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Old 23-11-2012, 01:54 PM
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An evolved process -

From the book "Abductions" by professor John E. Mack


The empirical methods of western science rely primarily on the physical senses and rational intellect for gaining knowledge, and downplay of feeling and intuition, and was developed in part to avoid the subjectivity, contamination, and sheer messiness of human emotion. Yet the cost of this restricted way of knowing may be that we now only learn about the physical world with only a limited use of our faculties. In order to learn about the worlds "beyond the veil," as abductees put it, we may need a different kind of consciousness. This means that the process of gaining information about abductions is, to a large degree, "co-creative" –– understanding comes to those who will accept it, and what I help bring forth from experiencers is something I am helping them discover within themselves. But this co––creative aspect does not mean, as many critics sometimes have said, that I impose beliefs of my own about the phenomenon upon the experiencers, or even that I believe literally everything an abductee says.


As much as possible my questions in the sessions derive from what has just been said, or my intuition, based on experiences in therapy not only with abductees, but hundreds of patients, about where I feel the inner experience of the abductee is going. I avoid leading questions, and abductees, in my experience, are quite difficult to lead (they all seem to feel, as Sheila said, "I know what I saw"). Yet, at the same time, I cannot avoid the fact that the co––creative intuitive process such as this may yield information that is in some sense the product of the inter-mingling or flowing together of the consciousness of the two (or more) people in the room. Something may be brought forth that was not there before in exactly the same form. Stated differently, the information gained in the sessions is not simply a remembered "item," lifted out like a stone from a kidney. It may represent instead a developed or evolved perception, enriched by the connection that the experiencer and the investigator have made.


From the western perspective this might be called "distortion"; from a transpersonal point of view the experiencer and I may be participating in an evolution of consciousness. When we are dealing with a phenomenon like alien abduction, which manifests in the physical world but may derive from some other reality, The question of whether hypnosis (or any other nonordinary modality that can help us access realities outside of or beyond the physical world) discloses accurately what literally or factually "happened" may be inappropriate (see chapter 1 for a fuller discussion of this matter). A more useful question would be whether the investigative method can yield information that is consistent among experiencers, carries emotional conviction, andappears to enlarge our knowledge of the phenomena that are significant for the lives of the experiencers and the larger culture. (Mack,1994, p.391)

Mack, J.E. 1994. Abductions 1st edn. London: Simon and Schuster LTD. pp. 391-392.

This is coincides with my view on abductions, also I think the ideas should be used when discussing spiritual experiences too, or indeed any experience which is out of the ordinary. This process is continuous, and there is an spiritual evolution going on, and we are all moving forward together. Let me know what you think. For a person to listen to, and then ask: where are the facts? But how do you know? This post answers that.
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