Saami People of Norway, Finland and Sweden and Joiking

[sentient]

eezi-ulgen
You have been battling this for a while now, haven’t you?
What could we do for you?
Group prayers for your healing?
I am afraid I am no healer, but if all of us forum members who read and appreciate your presence here would send prayers of healing energy for you …..

[eezi-ulgen]

sentient

Answer to question#1: Yes I've been experiencing symptoms for decades, it is like being boiled like a frog...

#2 I Love Prayers

#3 Healing and that I have patience with society and deal with people as Souls and
not feel the systems they work for baring down on my confusion and patience...
To maintain being as close to no-one when in the service of the VA, and not to have fear
that they lock me away for not being like them...

Thanks Friend,
Peace...

[sentient]

My late partner’s grandfather was what they called “the Clever Man”: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleverman
So, him and all of his cousins wondered if they had inherited their grandfather’s gifts. And yes, all of them got some bits and pieces, but not the whole transmission.

Similarly, there had been many healers in my family lines, and I was supposed to become one, since my grandmother was a healer – but there it stopped. I have knocked, but no answer, nothing has come through.

And that owl great-grandmother from powerful healers reminded me of Pamela Anderson and I thought that I am as much of a healer as she is – meaning nothing, zero, zilch, nada.
https://www.esquire.com/entertainmen...nterview-0105/

My owl great grandmother and her owl grandfather I think originally came from the same healer family line.
https://www.hyytiaiset.fi/attachment...mplate=generic
The founding father’s first name was Antti, so all the first sons got the same first name. If you Swedify that first name, it becomes “Anders”.
And I thought, she would have the right to picture the owl next to her name - I could not, not really.

The only time I met the owl, was when it appeared and “told me” - a departed wished for communication, would I accept. I did. And that is the proper way for the departed to come through as well and not just attach themselves to your energy-field without asking.


The same way, I guess eezi-ulgen, if you open for energies to come to you – you need to tell Spirit you will only accept to receive energies that are beneficial for you.


But back to Pamela. I’ve seen an image of a figure in a Karelian Museum in Russia, where it looks like it is wearing an owl headdress, similar to this old Mongolian Shaman:
https://www.researchgate.net/figure/...fig4_347509729

Did those ancestors – when healing also wear owl feathers? An owl wing in their hats perhaps?
Don’t know – the owl hasn’t come to me directly.

Then this morning I looked Pamela up and “Oh my”:
https://nz.news.yahoo.com/pamela-and...001500705.html

Since the event here was a bit coincidental, I write about it.
If she was connected to her family line and healing, she might have the right to wear owl feathers, but not to appropriate the culture of another, even though some things look a bit similar.

And no. I look nothing like Pamela.

[eezi-ulgen]

Originally Posted by sentient

The same way, I guess eezi-ulgen, if you open for energies to come to you – you need to tell Spirit you will only accept to receive energies that are beneficial for you.

This is very true...
I learn the hard way...Through experience I guess...
Reading something one time many Winters back, this guy was Praying to "White Eagle"
Me thought Hmm, sounds good, I will Pray to this same "White Eagle"...
Spirit with a very thunder like booming yet Loving and very firm voice said "Don't search for the answers!! The answers will come!!"...
I knew instantly that I was being corrected and I should not invite any ole Spirit I feel like into my Circle...
It seems when I let Life come to me in the Spiritual sense, people with negative Spiritual attachments find me...
Not me alone but always I work within a group very rarely taking the lead...
Thankfully there has always been someone or a group I could bring them to for help...
I do only want beneficial energies but it seems I am in and amongst the battles with people and there is always a dark/Light balance we must deal with...
It gets very confusing at times, though the fact that I have Life today is proof that Life works itself out for the Good...
Thankfully I have not been in a Spiritual controversy in some time other than the usual Life lessons...
Or might I say battling my own demons...

Spirit has a way of working, that is beyond me and my knowledge...

Peace...

[eezi-ulgen]

sentient
Do you know anything about these...
Horbo Buryat Mongol Shaman's Horse Staffs 16:32 Mins.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUSPvHBlJSk

I couldn't really find out to much, so I started checking this guy out on FB...
He calls himself a shaman, well he says real shaman call him a shaman so that
makes him a shaman or some nonsense LOL that I don't believe but remain open...
He does know a lot of teachings, he claims the teachings to be from Siberian shamans...
He also runs a online magazine and I check out some of his articles that seem
to be from some interesting people...Also some questionable people and sources...
I'm not trying to say he is plastic but he's been around I can tell that but
maybe he's Wanabe tribe...

I would trust him more if he stuck to his own ancestors...
Since it is my belief that really you can only barrow from another's culture and ancestry,
which means your not operating in your full Power...Or something like that...
Here is a link to some of his free past articles...
At your leisure, no pressure and no worries if your not interested at all...

https://www.sacredhoop.org/Pages/Articles.html

Anywho, I was interested to see what you thought about the Horse staffs...

Peace...

[sentient]

Originally Posted by eezi-ulgen

Me thought Hmm, sounds good, I will Pray to this same "White Eagle"...
Spirit with a very thunder like booming yet Loving and very firm voice said "Don't search for the answers!! The answers will come!!"...
I knew instantly that I was being corrected and I should not invite any ole Spirit I feel like into my Circle...

Also, since I do not know about healing, I can only send a prayer to Spirit for the purest healing energies and take myself out of the equation since my mind does not know what the best for another person is.

And you must excuse my writing lately. I have very much had Psychopomps in my mind lately, since I recently learned about my girlfriend’s passing, and am still processing what has happened….

“In many shamanic cultures, the bird is believed to function as a psychopomp - a guide that assists souls to their next life after death”.
For my uncle the premonition bird was a Raven/Crow, his namesake (that may have had totemic associations in the past at least). And they really are like ‘Angels’. The Crow “brought” the Golden Light and the full dawning of unconditional love and of interconnectedness of everything to him.
For another uncle, a lizard, that took him to a very peaceful, serene, slow flowing, beautiful, beautiful river …
My auntie used to see a certain small bird before a member of the family passed. I had thought it perhaps had been her “familiar”. I hadn’t known of such bird, but now as I researched it, that bird was a collective psychopomp belief of the people on the other side of family ….
A story I heard of a totem animal being present at burial, standing there at the distance. When they tracked that animal after the event, the tracks stopped into thin air.
I mentioned the owl, because it seems that is the one we have in common with some Saami at least.
Butterfly is another …

So, the psychopomp side of Shamanic things I understand a bit from first hand experiences, but not the healing side.
Since in hunter-gatherer mythological world view (the bits I’ve experienced of it), the whole phenomenal world as it is unfolding, is also a simultaneously manifestations of Spirit.
So you have got your mythological stories about the various animals and what they mean in spiritual dimension sense ‘living’ in your or your or your people’s collective subconscious.
In spiritual sense these psychopomps brought comfort and solace and a sense of oneness with natural/spirit dimensions.

Some people claim that cultural appropriation has happened since the dawn of humans bla bla bla and New Age often borrows Amerind beliefs of “soul animals” what have you …. whatever they are?
But at least when it comes to psychopomps, those are very much tied to an individual or come from a specific ancestral group – it seems.

BTW. Thank you for the previous “Shaman in the world” link. It seems to have quite a few good Saami bits in it.