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Well, you debate it with Roger Penrose, the mathematician.
My understanding T.A., is that, what we perceive as "reality", actually is a translation of vibrations.
We can't perceive everything that exists in our evolved human form.
The evolved animal/mammal, over illusory time.
Which, again, the chief rebel instigated at Adams Fall.
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"I believe there are two sides to the phenomena known as death. This side where we live, and the other side, where we shall continue to live.
Eternity does not start with death.
We are in eternity now." - Norman Vincent Peale
"There is no place in this new kind of physics for both the field and matter, for the field is the only reality." - A. Einstein
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