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Originally Posted by inavalan
I believe that everything is consciousness, and that everything is in contact at a non-physical level. I don't mean a negotiation or a collaboration.
This includes non-physical beings as well as all physical kingdoms. Death doesn't exist as a tragic act, as it just is a wake up into another reality, to one's whole-self.
The physical kingdoms are bell distributions related to the degree of evolvement of the units of consciousness on the progression: instincts, emotions, intellect, intuition. Plants develop instincts; animals are dominated by instincts developing emotions; man is dominated by emotions developing intellect.
Every unit of consciousness from the elemental, to the more complex, to gestalts has free will, its individuality and its own evolvement path, nothing being preordained. Hence the infinite variability at all levels.
Out of ignorance, we tend to anthropomorphize the wider reality. It isn't useful; it isn't inconvenient. It becomes a problem only for the individuals who err into anger, hate, fear, as it affects their own well-being (thoughts and emotions bring into one's reality situations, manifestations that tend to bring the same kind of thoughts and emotions).
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I was pretty much in agreement with you until you said we anthropomorphize the wider reality, and as I see it, that's an effort to disengage from human responsibility as it pertains to the critters and their emotions. And they do have emotions. They feel love, joy, grief, fear....just like us. An orca whose calf has died will carry it with her for 17 days, a cat whose kittens have been killed but not eaten will draw their cold little bodies to herself and try to nurse them and warm them as she grieves. A cow will chase the farm as he drives away with the calf she has just birthed. A pig will leap for joy in the freedom of the sunshine that warms the sanctuary where she has been blessed with safety, and likewise a horse will stand trembling in fear as she's forced into the kill box.... So it's not necessary that we anthropomorphize anything, they experience the identical feelings that we have. They exist as individual entities and we only recognize their emotions. The only time that becomes 'inconvenient' to us is when it interferes with our plans for them.
You've said that '
Every unit of consciousness from the elemental, to the more complex, to gestalts has free will, its individuality and its own evolvement path, nothing being preordained.'
They are individual units of consciousness no less than we are, just as you have already agreed. So then that means if we decide to take their lives from them, we are interfering with their free will after we have pre-ordained their deaths by causing them to be born.