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Old 11-01-2022, 01:09 PM
Viswa
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Originally Posted by vgemini
Your Thoughts? Experiences? Karma?
It doesn't matters. Not valuable...Fades away in Time, and remains only if one gets interest on it and thought again. Comes and goes...

But what about me?? Am I the doer of such actions?? Am I the cause of all actions/experiences?? Nope......It flows. Taoism calls it as TAO. Hinduism calls it as Prakriti. Krishna calls it as the play of three gunas in Bhagavat Gita. Vedantists call it as Mithya. Buddhists says "It's a seed. How it comes doesn't matter. But if you water it with your intentions, bondage happens". Many calls it in many ways based on their perceptions.

All the above perception commonly accepts that actually those are "Not you". The prakriti,gunas,karma,actions,experiences,seed is not you. So, as these are not you, Buddhists came to a conclusion of "Non-self", as there is no perception of Me happens.

It's true. YOU cannot experience YOU. And so ME. And so every living being. Things starts,flows and ends, again starts flows and ends, again, again, again...

So, Who am I??? That's it...Soul cannot perceive itself. It can perceive Mind,Body,Universe, every thing bound to time. Perceptions bound to time. So when seeking all this ends, Who am I?? I am what?? Is there an'I'?? I?? I?? I?? the "I" thought then remains (which was the first came before creation of universe), and slowly calms down...

Then nothing matters anymore. Peace or war or sex or love or compassion or anything, doesn't matters then as all has no relationship to "Me". I watch, it comes and plays and goes....I am not the doer and so any living being...Sometimes anger, sometimes lust, sometimes peace, sometimes anything.. it is not me and so those expressed by others are not "them".

There is no such person as good or bad or righteous or wisdom or vice or virtue or enlightened or knowledged or ignorant or serious or fools or devotees or racist or rapist or communist or religious or politician or scientist or doctor or engineer or worker or businessman or transgender or men or women or animal or plant or etc.. Only for communication to others it then used, but no person is identified then based on what they do/act/etc.. No class/sects/groups/etc then..

If no differentiation of " Me from them", then the thought of "them" and "atma" and "soul" and "brahman" and "witnessed" and "experienced" and "purusha" also ends..

Thought of "I" also comes down and slowly vanishes

Only seeking/intention/desire/attachment binds and bonds. There is no relationship to the "person" with whatever he sows and so, no relationship with the fruits either.

Even, there is no sinner too. Anybody caught in sin, God forgives is all about that, their identification as "sinner" vanishes and so they are informed them as "forgiven". In the same way goodness too. No person is good either. In religions, on the time of death, whatever a person did as sin, if they ask for forgiveness, then God forgives... How is it possible?? Because actually they are not sinners...Only soul and not the actions. They are eternal eternally and so no goodness or sinner anytime.

So if one seeks something from the seed, then bondage happens.. Only interest, desires, thought, identification, sankalpa - matters for a while. If one seeks materials, so bound to materials. If one seeks enlightenment, then bound to knowledge. But in time, their bondage to knowledge also comes to an end. So seeking ends and so thoughts ends... Nothing matters anymore. Let it be whatever. Let it flow however.

Some seeking in this world are key to end our interest to worldly things, and they are called "Yoga". Union with God/soul/me in form of knowledge, devotion, work, and non-work by sitting as stone- concentrating on God with no food,etc..

All these are keys/paths, and those are also bondage, but a good bondage and itself will go away when nothing as material can affect/interest/intends/create desire anymore...

When this falls, that bondage also falls as the paths purpose ends....
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