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Old 15-06-2019, 02:36 AM
FallingLeaves FallingLeaves is offline
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the east gate to eden is closed so we aren't 'drifting' into mystical experiences... except when the keepers like to give us lessons but then it is very controlled.

the trick is to disregard all the talk that you can't do it and then find yourself working to figure out how to do it.

As it isn't something you can be 'told' how to do, in the way people like to share ideas of how to do things. The main problem being there is no common language to talk about it. We are all saying the same words and meaning different things, then each deciding to say our OWN meaning takes precedence over everyone elses and everyone else should therefore share ours. That isn't a way to communicate, that is a way to have fights.

But once you catch on that it is up to you whether or not to proceed and you also are responsible for figuring out HOW to proceed, then you get into the goals problem... you suddenly see a path and you set it as a goal to follow that path... but you don't see the path clearly and meanwhile the path is changing in subtle ways anyway, so the goal doesn't work in a 'straight line' (for lack of better phrasing) and so if you blindly follow any goal you have set using the methodologies you saw when you set the goal, you quickly get trapped.

So to progress, like a little child you find yourself continuously learning, adapting, changing how you interact with things.... and this is very difficult because the mind always wants to convince you things are more limited than they really are. I mean it REALLY wants to convince you of that, so much so that it will couch limitations as if they aren't really limitations to convince you, if you won't buy it when it is initially trying to convince you. That does most people in pretty quickly. But if you get past that it will tell you (for example) you HAVE to have the methodology of continuously learning, adapting, and changing how you interact with things in order to achieve your goals... which when stated that way becomes just as limiting as anything else it says. Because once you decide you have to have something you won't allow yourself to make the choice to let it go... and one more choice you won't allow yourself means one more degree of freedom you won't allow yourself.

Limitations really pile up, fast, which is really the basic reason it is hard to get anywhere when you are trying... but like I say east gate to eden is closed (shrugs).

People like eastern masters have gotten around those kinds of problems at the gross level and can have 'experiences' that might be in some way desirable. but from what I can tell they just find themselves in similar traps, at another level of existance. The main difference between past and present being that now they don't have a context in which to recognize that essentially nothing has changed.
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