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Old 26-02-2021, 07:39 PM
JustASimpleGuy
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Originally Posted by MikeS80
The self in the question "Can the self be self-aware without mind or object?" @ 08:53 is lower case.

Sure, consciousness may not be manufactured by the brain, but that does not mean brahman does not enter our physical bodies and animate our physical bodies through our hearts (Assemblage Point), central nervous systems (which the brain is a part of) etc etc.
http://mcb.berkeley.edu/courses/mcb135e/central.html
The assemblage point

The Self-self (atman) is not a collective or a group of Selfs-selfs. The Self is individualized. I am not saying that all Selfs (atmans) are not made out of the same substance/energy, because they are made out of the same substance/energy. This is how and why the Self (atman) is all there is. This takes us back to the subject of mithya and maya:

Mithya means false in sankrit, false in the context of mithya means changing, impermanent, perishable, superimposed, and dependent on something else for its existence (brahman). Maya on the other hand means ignorance. A great statement from the Upanisads asserts, Sarvam khalvidam Brahman, All this, indeed, is Brahman. All this (idam), meaning all we (the Self-self or atman) see with our mind and senses is Brahman, but we (the Self-self or atman) are not recognizing it as Brahman. And this is maya, ignorance, the cause of all suffering. Always remember that atman is brahman. Since atman (Self-self) is brahman, brahman is being conscious of itself through atman (Self-self)

Mithya and maya have nothing to do with the world or universe being unreal or an illusion, the only unreal and illusion is not recognizing everything we see with our mind and senses as being brahman.

Small "s" self is body, mind, chitta, buddhi, mannas, ahamkara. All objects of awareness/consciousness.

Capital "S" Self is That which is aware/conscious of experience of all objects.

Self is Atman is Brahman is SatChitAnanda and since It's without a second all objects of experience are but name, form and usage of Itself. Appearances of Itself, within Itself and inseparable from Itself.

A statement such as "I am conscious" is the perspective of self (Ahamkara's propensity to appropriate) whereas "I Am Consciousness" is that of Self.