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Old 07-05-2021, 10:16 PM
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That “Cross” was true enough and the Joiking, but the association with Druids – that perhaps is “European Paganism” which does include Scandinavia, but of which I do not know anything about …
And it starts to sound a bit like: “I call you a ‘shaman’ and you call me a ‘shaman’ – therefore we are ‘shamen’. And the whole thing starts to get messed up, watered down and lose its meaning.
https://greywolf.druidry.co.uk/category/the-world-drum/

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Also, when a non-indig. tells an indigenous mythological story – things do get twisted around …
Quote:
https://folklorethursday.com/myths/924/
The double-bottomed lake is associated with the idea of a stratified world; the lake offered access to the world below.
True. This symbolism still lives so strongly in the collective subconscious, that if for example one sees a dream of a departed one, in the dream, he or she might be in a ’boat’ going under water …

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This is a story of a girl missing her departed boyfriend.
The shaman calls him. BUT. It is the departed who send an owl (real or other-dimensional) to the living as an indication of a wish to communicate – not the other way round, like in this film.
Besides owls do not make a sound when they fly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXGO2Q1UWTQ

So. If one doesn’t live one’s culture in some way, soon it will be owned by another's imagination and turned into something else.

NAFPS does have a point, it is just the tactics I do not agree with …

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P.S.
But. Once one makes contact with the departed – all the sadness vanishes. i.e. How can ‘you’ mourn someone, when you are talking to them … him or her.

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