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Old 13-05-2023, 10:17 PM
alphamind alphamind is offline
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jainarayan
The mantra is a play on words. The mantra, in my opinion, is calling on God and his energies in various ways. Hare can indeed refer to Rādhā/Rādhārāni. A name for her is Harā. In the vocative (calling or addressing) it becomes Hare.

As I mentioned the male Hari also becomes Hare in the vocative. Note the long a at the end of Harā, which is different than a name for Shiva, Hara. Because Sanskrit is so highly inflected, and there's a difference in pronunciation of vowels (long and short) and some consonants it is very flexible yet can be frighteningly ambiguous. It allows for plays on words and many meanings of one word or phrase. Context is extremely important in understanding what's being said or written.

As far as Ramo, the only thing I can think of is Ramau (au becomes o). But that is a dual inflection, basically "two Rāmas". Paired with Hari it becomes Harerāmau, like "O Vishnu and Rāma". I think this is a reach and it's probably just a pronunciation thing. In the recorded version from the Goddess of Fortune album Yamuna Devi Dasi, the singer often says Hare Krishana. There's no such inflection. So, yeah ... maybe just pronunciation.

I too think Ramo is just pronunciation while they actually say Rama, but I iust find it distracting, so wanted to vent somewhere on that. There is a recording of HH Bhaktivedanta Srila Prabhupada Swami on youtube chanting, and it sounds like he’s chanting Hari instead of Hare. But I don’t think he would be chanting Hari, it’s just the way it sounds. But I think people tend to think it’s Hari, and I feel there’s a noticeable different effect if you actually say Hare.

Thanks for clarifying on Hara and Harā. I heard both that it’s a mantra for Shiva and for Radha and didn’t want to say anything because I thought it was just interpretation depending on the religious movement/sector.

Again, very interesting knowledge here. The language and how it’s based on tongue plays with the vowels and letters rings close to home. I get why it’s considered a divine language.
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